real sound vs speaker reproduced sound

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Audioholic Chief
I don’t think so. I hear awesome sound every time I turn on my system. It sounds better than a real live concert. No one talking. No one sneezing or coughing. Better than live sound. Everything sounds perfect. Picture is perfect. So you just need to get the perfect sound system, which includes speakers, processor, sub, etc.

If you don't have the awesome system than the sound will never sound awesome.
my point... mostly subjective:D
 
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donileo

Enthusiast
subjective yes but Im sure scientific tests will show plenty of positions in a concert hall wont match quality of sound provided by the proximity of speakers to you in a home theater setting. I went and saw Xmen Last Stand at an Imax not long ago. My theater setup sounds much much better.
 
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Audioholic Chief
subjective yes but Im sure scientific tests will show plenty of positions in a concert hall wont match quality of sound provided by the proximity of speakers to you in a home theater setting. I went and saw Xmen Last Stand at an Imax not long ago. My theater setup sounds much much better.
Be careful what you believe....or what you think you know....
 
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donileo

Enthusiast
haha.. yea i can be wrong but of course I would love to conduct or see such tests
 
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Audioholic Chief
Ive recorded many orchestras and the difference from the mic positions vs my seating position has been drastic.. Acoustic science and venues have a tremendous effect of the sound. Several mics placed within the orchestra and several mics placed outside the pit will yield completely different sounds.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Stop wasting energy worrying about it. Just enjoy your movies, TV series, and music.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Stop wasting energy worrying about it. Just enjoy your movies, TV series, and music.
Just got a negative reputation for saying this.

Instead of growing a backbone and saying it to my face, this is what they said behind my back: "What usele advice. You have really weirded out. Get a life."
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Ive recorded many orchestras and the difference from the mic positions vs my seating position has been drastic.. Acoustic science and venues have a tremendous effect of the sound. Several mics placed within the orchestra and several mics placed outside the pit will yield completely different sounds.
I said this on my first post but it obviousy didn't sink in then. Do you really think it will now?
 
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Audioholic Chief
I said this on my first post but it obviousy didn't sink in then. Do you really think it will now?
Let me finish this scotch and ill...who needs a hammer when you have a forum
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
Just got a negative reputation for saying this.

Instead of growing a backbone and saying it to my face, this is what they said behind my back: "What usele advice. You have really weirded out. Get a life."
Red rep comments always crack me up so thanks for sharing. Any idea how many points were lost ... you cry baby. :D
 
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donileo

Enthusiast
Just got a negative reputation for saying this.

Instead of growing a backbone and saying it to my face, this is what they said behind my back: "What usele advice. You have really weirded out. Get a life."
I won't lie I got a sour feeling from the post even though it was well intended lol. You're telling me to stop obsessing over music quality lol... never! I wish I could listen to my speakers right now.. unfortunately they are thousands of miles away :(
 
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Audioholic Chief
Just got a negative reputation for saying this.

Instead of growing a backbone and saying it to my face, this is what they said behind my back: "What usele advice. You have really weirded out. Get a life."
Maybe they are just jealous that you have access to pharmaceuticals to skew your perception :eek: :D
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
I make recordings of my wife playing various instruments in our house, using a digital recorder and various microphones, in 24/96 format. (The 96KHz sampling rate is irrelevant, but I like the 24bit word length for overload protection.) Different drums kits, a vibraphone, and a piano. I have recorded a couple of her bands practicing in the house, and I also have a studio-made recording of my step-daughter playing the flute.

On my tuned Revel/Velodyne system I can tell you that there's no doubt in my mind that a modern high-end audio system can get very close to the sound of live individual instruments or small ensembles. Very close. One primary difference is that you are hearing the acoustics of the room twice in a recording. Once when you record it, and again when you reproduce it at realistic volumes. I think this always makes the recordings sound a little less live.

While a great system can reproduce audible cues of a large group plating in a large space, like an orchestra in a concert hall, here the illusion falls apart, IMO. I've never heard any system, including mine, sound live with an orchestra recording. It can sound very, very good, even truly exciting, but it would never be mistaken for live.

In the case of the before-mentioned flute recording, my step-daughter once stood between my speakers and played along with herself. If you sat in the sweet spot and closed your eyes there were times I wondered which was which. In the end I could always tell, but sometimes I had to listen for twenty seconds or more. That's pretty good, IMO.

My wife's rock drum kit is a big challenge, especially for dynamics, but the audio system get close. Not quite live, but close.

With the piano and the vibraphone I think I can fool people.
I agree, a good home audio system can come close to the live music you talked about, still sound very good with orchestral music such as concertos and symphonies but not even close to being live like. I could have almost written half of what you did though wouldn't be word for word, still scary..
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Red rep comments always crack me up so thanks for sharing. Any idea how many points were lost ... you cry baby. :D
Wait. Points? What points? Do we get any rewards money with these points like credit card Rewards or Travel points? :D
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
If Gene really wants to make money - he'd offer rep points for sale.

Well, and/or sell lists of rep points - say, a premium membership lets you view people's points anytime, but you can view a snapshot of the points for something like $1-$5.
 
Irvrobinson

Irvrobinson

Audioholic Spartan
I was told we could use these points to buy gear from the Classifieds Forum.

What do you have left? :D
Great idea! Ten cents per point of reputation power seems perfectly reasonable. :)
 
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