Sub Advice for use with Topping TP20 and Pioneer BS22s

[markw]

This amp might be your ticket, Dayton Audio APA150 150W Power Amplifier

Doea that have a sub output? I don't think so. It looks like that defeatable low pass filter is made so it can be used as a sub amp

Otherwise, it's just another small amp, albiet with more power than the TP20.

[edit] I see it does have a line out. If that's controlled by the volume control it'll work perfectly if line out is mandatory, but again, I don't think it's that big a deal. But, the additional power would be good particularly since these things are rated at 10% distortion levels.

 

[Josh83]

The APA150's volume does not control the RCA out. It was one of the small amps I considered, but several reviewers on Amazon, Parts Express, etc. noted that the RCA out was not controlled by the volume knob and so it couldn't be used for a sub in that way.

If I decided I wanted more power than the TP20, I'd probably consider the Topping TP60, the APA150, and the Emotiva a100, but all are are at least twice the price (and twice the size) of the TP20, so I'm going to stick with it as long as I can. Plus, for any of these, I'd still be using the hi inputs on whatever sub I buy.

Speaking of which, any further recommendations of <$150 subwoofers for a small home office, either from the ones I listed in the original post or otherwise?

Thank, again, for the help you all have offered. It's been very informative and cleared up some lingering questions.

 

[zieglj01]

Speaking of which, any further recommendations of <$150 subwoofers for a small home office, either from the ones I listed in the original post or otherwise?

Since you are mainly music, and not HT- plus in a small room - then the
Pioneer sub looks to be a good option for you.

The sub does have some bass - from HT Labs >>>
The SW-8MK2’s close-miked response, normalized to the level at 80 Hz,
indicates that the lower –3dB point is at 31 Hz and the –6-dB point is
at 29 Hz. The upper –3dB point is at 137 Hz with the FREQ control set
to maximum

 

[agarwalro]

[edit] I see it does have a line out. If that's controlled by the volume control it'll work perfectly if line out is mandatory, but again, I don't think it's that big a deal. But, the additional power would be good particularly since these things are rated at 10% distortion levels.

My thoughts were that the amp's high pass would complement the high pass on sub, thereby giving the means to have bass management. As you mentioned, the cross over is not a high pass and as Josh mentioned, the Line out is fixed. I guess this amp is not the ticket after all.

He's not in the market for an amp. He's happy with his amp. He wants a sub.

I would never have guessed . Good on you for bringing the discussion back on point.

Speaking of which, any further recommendations of <$150 subwoofers for a small home office, either from the ones I listed in the original post or otherwise?

My pick would be the Sub 1000.

 

[afterlife2]

I third The Dayton Audio SUB-1000 or 1200(Love mine).

 

[Josh83]

The sub is going under my desk, near my feet, so I was leaning towards either the Pioneer SW8MK2 or the BIC V1020, mainly because both are down-firing and therefore seemed safer for placing near feet. However, is the consensus that the Daytons sound substantially better than the BIC or Pioneer? (I'd love to be able to go audition them myself, but there aren't any stores in town with these subs.)

 

[zieglj01]

The sub is going under my desk, near my feet, so I was leaning towards either the Pioneer SW8MK2 or the BIC V1020, mainly because both are down-firing and therefore seemed safer for placing near feet. However, is the consensus that the Daytons sound substantially better than the BIC or Pioneer? (I'd love to be able to go audition them myself, but there aren't any stores in town with these subs.)

The choice is up to you - I for one, do not make audio decisions by votes.

A lot of people do like the Pioneer for music - in a limited set-up

Your call - Enjoy the adventure

 

[rojo]

I think unless you get closer to $500, any improvements from one over the other will be marginal. Be that as it may, I'd probably go for the BIC, as it's got a lower bottom end and 1/3 more RMS wattage. It's also a little larger, though, so a few inches less room to swing your feet.

 

[Josh83]

Thanks, everyone, for your help in this thread. I expect I'm going to pick up the Pioneer, since it's the only one a certain local big box store seems to have in stock (which will facilitate an easy return if I don't like it).

 

[zieglj01]

Thanks, everyone, for your help in this thread. I expect I'm going to pick up the Pioneer, since it's the only one a certain local big box store seems to have in stock (which will facilitate an easy return if I don't like it).

Enjoy the adventure

 

[Josh83]

Even though it's tangentially related to the sub question, since the issue of more powerful amps than the TP20 came up, if I wanted to upgrade the TP20 to something with more power (I often have it turned back 12 O'Clock on the volume), does anyone here have any thoughts on which of these three is the best choice, in terms of sound and build quality/dependability?

1.) SMSL SA-98E
2.) Topping TP-60 (older model with the flat face plate)
3.) Topping TP-60 (2014 model with "Topping" printed on an angled portion of the face plate)

I've read all the reviews on this board (and several others) of the TP60 and SA98. It seems they both have their fans and their pros and cons (particularly related to the 2022 chip vs the 7498 chip and the power brick vs. the internal toroidal power supply).

Any thoughts would definitely be appreciated, especially from anyone who has owned one (or more) of them.