Well, Michael Moore is finding out what it's like to be a mere mortal.

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markw

Audioholic Overlord
I hate to be guilty of schadenfreude but it's somewhat comforting to see that even with his great wealth and feelings of self importance, he's not immune to the stinging financial pains of a divorce. I guess he's all for sharing the wealth as long as it's not his.

"While the couple’s combined net worth has not been made public, Moore’s estimated net worth alone stands at $50 million. And hey, good for him.
But…this is a guy who has railed against wealth in America for years: “fat-cat corporations,” “one-percenters,” “rich Republicans,” on and on.

At the end of the day, it appears that our friend Michael Moore is pretty darned concerned about money as well."

Full linky HERE
 
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Nestor

Senior Audioholic
So now that he's rich, he's supposed to flip and become an apologist for the rich? Or is he supposed to stay poor?

I don't get the hate.
 
Ponzio

Ponzio

Audioholic Samurai
gee, I don't remember him doing any documentary or op-ed pieces on divorce law or lawyers. so why should I now be happy about him getting his comeuppance, for what?

while I find Michael Moore's films biased and sometimes a bit elastic with the facts, I don't see where he's being a "hypocrite". what am I missing here?
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
gee, I don't remember him doing any documentary or op-ed pieces on divorce law or lawyers. so why should I now be happy about him getting his comeuppance, for what?

while I find Michael Moore's films biased and sometimes a bit elastic with the facts, I don't see where he's being a "hypocrite". what am I missing here?
Mark hates white people.


:D :D :D
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

Moderator
I would have to ask if Moore made his 50 million by making sure the deck is stacked and stepping on other people to do it.

It's not about the $$ one has, it's about the way they made it.

Here is a really good example:

Banks get laws changed about being both in the banking and securities business.

Banks (now investment firms) do all sorts of dicey stuff including flooding the market with all sorts of junk loans to both business and consumers.

Banks get laws changed to make it exponentially harder to discharge debt by means of bankruptcy.

You can figure it out from there.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Hey. he always wants strangers to pay for services for other strangers who didn't earn it, and now his soon to be ex wife is asking for her fair share of their marital assets. Heaven knows, she earned it by living with and coddling that bloated, ...err, ego, for any length of time.

But, yeah. It would be funny if his next movie was on divorce lawyers. There's even a "reality" show about one from Jersey on TV now.
 
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MidnightSensi2

Audioholic Chief
I believe the word is hypocrit, Kinda like Al Gore.
Al Gore is a genius though. He sold 'saving the planet,' made money off that, only to sell his 'green credit' company to an Arab oil company for huge money!

I'm not a fan either, but, gotta admit, pretty sly if that was all planned out. Or, smart decision making along the way.. Talking some serious cash.
 
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MidnightSensi2

Audioholic Chief
I would have to ask if Moore made his 50 million by making sure the deck is stacked and stepping on other people to do it.

It's not about the $$ one has, it's about the way they made it.

Here is a really good example:

Banks get laws changed about being both in the banking and securities business.

Banks (now investment firms) do all sorts of dicey stuff including flooding the market with all sorts of junk loans to both business and consumers.

Banks get laws changed to make it exponentially harder to discharge debt by means of bankruptcy.

You can figure it out from there.
To a credit card company I think I'm what they call a 'deadbeat' ... or someone who PAYS OFF their credit card each month. It might not be 'deadbeat' .. but it some term like that they use.

Actually, I've noticed the longer I've had any credit history, the less credit card offers I get. When I was fresh out of school with no credit history, I'd get all kinds of offers for credit cards.

Also, I'd see friends not pay their cards off and then get hit with like 20% interest compounded monthly and **** .. Type of numbers that you'd hear in a movie about lone sharking.. It's amazing to me.
 
Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
Al Gore is a genius though.
I don't know if he's a real genius, or that much of the population easily falls for propaganda.:D

I have to give Al Gore, Bernie Madoff and Michael Moore credit where it's due. Since it's frowned upon to rob people at gun point; they've found unique ways to separate people from there money.
Use propaganda instead of a gun, much less messy.
 
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MidnightSensi2

Audioholic Chief
I don't know if he's a real genius, or that much of the population easily falls for propaganda.:D

I have to give Al Gore, Bernie Madoff and Michael Moore credit where it's due. Since it's frowned upon to rob people at gun point; they've found unique ways to separate people from there money.
Use propaganda instead of a gun, much less messy.
Exactly! Haha
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

Moderator
To a credit card company I think I'm what they call a 'deadbeat' ... or someone who PAYS OFF their credit card each month. It might not be 'deadbeat' .. but it some term like that they use.

Actually, I've noticed the longer I've had any credit history, the less credit card offers I get. When I was fresh out of school with no credit history, I'd get all kinds of offers for credit cards.

Also, I'd see friends not pay their cards off and then get hit with like 20% interest compounded monthly and **** .. Type of numbers that you'd hear in a movie about lone sharking.. It's amazing to me.
This will flip your wig:

With chip + pin cards finally making their way to the US (been in Europe for a while) the average fraud rate is cut by 80%.

1. Do you think that CC companies are going to reflect this in card rates for merchants?

2. Do you think that CC companies are going to keep staffing at their dispute resolution centers at current levels?
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
This will flip your wig:

With chip + pin cards finally making their way to the US (been in Europe for a while) the average fraud rate is cut by 80%.

1. Do you think that CC companies are going to reflect this in card rates for merchants?

2. Do you think that CC companies are going to keep staffing at their dispute resolution centers at current levels?
Good point, but/and ...

1. Do you think any politicians will do anything about it?

2. Do you think the cc user community will do anything about it?
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
Good point, but/and ...

1. Do you think any politicians will do anything about it?

2. Do you think the cc user community will do anything about it?
1. Why would they? I certainly don't try to stop the people who pay me.

2. Are you trying to incite an uprising in the stock yard? :D
 
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herbu

Audioholic Samurai
It's not about the $$ one has, it's about the way they made it.
Here is a really good example:
Banks get laws changed about being both in the banking and securities business...
EXACTLY RIGHT!!!
And Congress gets laws changed that we'll have to pass to find out what's in them. Fortunately that law saved us avg $2500/year on healthcare costs, let us keep our current plans, and covered all the uninsured.

Look, like it or not, it is always about the money. Always.
Some people think they can make the most by offering good stuff/services for a fair price.
Some people think they can make the most by offering sub-par stuff/services for a cut-rate price.
Some people think they can make the most by offering junk stuff/services to people who are too ignorant to know the difference.
Some people think they can make the most by offering feel-good but worthless stuff/services to people whose priority is to feel good.
Some people think they can make the most by buying votes from the poor, then skimming what they redistribute from the rich.

Regardless, it is all generally legal, and always, always, always about the money.
Each of us simply has to pick which segment we want to support.
And each of us generally feels pity or disdain for those who chose a category different than ours.
(In my case, it is disdain & disgust for those rat bas+@rd$ in the last category... bless their hearts. :D)
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
Here's another unbelievable issue that is about to be imported from Europe into the U.S. ... negative interest rates! Okay, banks 0 - Stock Market 21 and it wasn't even a good game.
» Economist: U.S. Banks Preparing to Charge Customers For Deposits Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Get those socks and mattresses ready............................
I'm amazed that this post didn't receive any interest...other than Adam's mischief. It portends the failure of the banking system as we know it. And THAT is not a good thing (at least initially). People will be pulling cash out of their accounts like it was weeds in their yards. Or maybe nobody saves money in banks anymore or cares about what happens to their dough. (Intended softball setup for Alex and Adam. :rolleyes:)

Personally, I say invest in booze, comic books, guns and ammo. :D
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
I'm amazed that this post didn't receive any interest...other than Adam's mischief.
Oh, I'm interested all right. I had sent this article to my email contacts and posted it on Facebook days before it was posted here.

Betcha the sale of safes goes up big time
 
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herbu

Audioholic Samurai
It portends the failure of the banking system as we know it.
This is the first I've heard of this, and need to learn more before I decide if it's evil like you say.

Let's say I have a lot of cars, or wheat, or gold, or anything. Several companies tells me, "I will store your stuff for you, send you regular statements about how it's doing, handle any transactions you want, in or out, any time, and assure the security of your stuff." I would expect those companies to charge me a fee for their services, and I would decide which offers the best services for the price.

I do that today with money. There are credit card fees, checking account fees, minimum deposit fees, overdraft fees, etc. I decide which are important to me, and shop for the best deal. So I'm not sure if another fee for holding my savings represents a failure of the banking system, or simply another fee I should include when shopping for a bank. We generally keep 0.2 - 0.5% of our savings in the bank, and already pay a fee for handling/management of the other 99.5% anyway.

I'm not too bright. Can somebody help me understand why this is so bad?
 
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