Adding a stereo receiver to an AVR or a new cd player

[iantot]

Hi everyone,

I have a Yamaha HTR-6180 receiver powering a full Klipsch RF series (RF-82's as fronts) it's sounds amazing with movies and concert blu rays, but for some odd reason when it comes to cd playback, it sounds like it's missing something. sometimes it even sounds terrible. I tired using the surround back terminals to bi-amp the speakers, it did improve a bit but still sounded it could sound better.

I read that adding a dedicated stereo receiver would help thru the yamaha's pre-outs. Some say my cd player sucks, it's a standard 90's sony cd changer with no internal dac I believe. So my first question to all the pros is, is it true that connecting a stereo receiver to my avr would cause a dramatic improvement to music playback?

Second, I do understand a little bit about dac and such, and did my research and found out that my receiver has an internal dac. 192khz, 24 bit burr...something lol. so does that mean that getting a stand alone cd player with the same internal dac would be a waste of money? I was eyeing the Yamaha cd-s300.

Thank you so much in advance. Hope you guys can help me out.

 

[markw]

You could use a power amp, not a receiver via those pre outs but you can't share the speakers*. The power amp would require it's own speakers.

*Not without switching them from the receiver to the power amp as you need. You would need a separate switch of undetermined cost.

 

[slipperybidness]

Hi everyone,

I have a Yamaha HTR-6180 receiver powering a full Klipsch RF series (RF-82's as fronts) it's sounds amazing with movies and concert blu rays, but for some odd reason when it comes to cd playback, it sounds like it's missing something. sometimes it even sounds terrible. I tired using the surround back terminals to bi-amp the speakers, it did improve a bit but still sounded it could sound better.

I read that adding a dedicated stereo receiver would help thru the yamaha's pre-outs. Some say my cd player sucks, it's a standard 90's sony cd changer with no internal dac I believe. So my first question to all the pros is, is it true that connecting a stereo receiver to my avr would cause a dramatic improvement to music playback?

Second, I do understand a little bit about dac and such, and did my research and found out that my receiver has an internal dac. 192khz, 24 bit burr...something lol. so does that mean that getting a stand alone cd player with the same internal dac would be a waste of money? I was eyeing the Yamaha cd-s300.

Thank you so much in advance. Hope you guys can help me out.

What model Sony CD player are we talking about? That is probably a piece of junk (mechanically), but it still shouldn't sound like complete crap on your system. How is it connected to the Yammy? RCA (red/white) or digi (either optical or coax)? If it's the red/white RCA for L//R, then the sony has a built in DAC and is feeding an analog signal to the Yammy.

We need to know what you have, and more importantly, how you have it hooked up. Then, we can point you in the right direction to solve your problem.

 

[iantot]

Thank you for the responses, the cd player is connected via rca cables as it does not have optical outs. As for using a power amp, that's the route I'm gearing towards (once I get the funds for it) I'm thinking Marantz or a NAD power amp. Any suggestions?

 

[slipperybidness]

Thank you for the responses, the cd player is connected via rca cables as it does not have optical outs. As for using a power amp, that's the route I'm gearing towards (once I get the funds for it) I'm thinking Marantz or a NAD power amp. Any suggestions?

If your CD player has the red/white for L/R, then it is feeding analog signal to the Yammy. This means the CD player has its own DAC.

Have you tried:
New set of RCA cables
Plug a different source into the same CD input to test the input
Plug the CD player into a different input

If your sound is good on everything else, then it must be either a cable, the CD player, or the inputs on the Yammy. All of those are easily tested.

Also, be sure that you don't have some DSP mode turned on for that CD input, that could do it too.

If you do the things I suggested, it should be pretty dang obvious where the problem lies. If not then report back your findings and we can point you in the right direction.

My $ is on the Sony CD player due to my personal distaste from Sony. Also, highly likely to have a bad cable.

As far as and external amp....I doubt you will NEED it with those speakers.