I wonder if anyone ever used one of these in a diy subwoofer

[ImcLoud]

My old house had a designated home theater, problem was we used it 3 times in 5 years, so when we built the new house I decided it was a waste, I expanded the gym to 1000sq feet and scrapped the home theater all together. BUT we have 3 parlors, 1 is our formal parlor which has no tv, just a couple juke boxes, one of my 2.2 systems, some furniture and our bar here's a picture of the front 1/4 of it, this room is open to the entry way, dining room, stair case, with a loft over about 30 % of it, the rest has ceilings as high as 24 feet. Our "living room" parlor is just for us, its in the back of the house, has our a TV hanging over the fireplace, and my 5.2 system, that is where we watch movies and TV for the most part.. Our third parlor is in the guest suite, its about 300 sq feet and has a 2.2 system in it that is both for music and TV, but used mostly for music, sometimes when I want to be "home" without being "home" I sneak down there and listen to music, the couch is very comfortable....

So we didn't go for the full home theater, it was an option but we just don't watch a lot of TV and to watch a movie, it normally either in the bedroom or the living room, and I watch movies in 40 minute intervals... Even my kids, I see them watch 3 movies a year, just not big on tv in my house, more music and with the kids video games... But I agree, its nice to have, and impressive when done rite, but the problem with my old theater was I would fall asleep, it was too dark and it was away from the rest of the house, so if I wanted a sandwich or bowl of soup I would have to go all the way to the kitchen and make it myself, now with the living room off the kitchen I can just ask my wife to get it.... The smartest thing we did when building this house was split it in quarters, 1/4 bedrooms, 1/4 utility, 1/4 entertaining, 1/4 guests so we use 1/2 the house regularly and the other 1/2 is sporadically used...

I have the RCA dog in my parlor like in that picture...

 

[shadyJ]

its bad enough by dual vtf2's crack my ceiling when I turn them way up {cathedral ceilings done by a guy that specializes in large ceilings, they used 58"X14" 5/8" boards!!! I have contracted houses before and NEVER seen larger than 4x12 sheets, these were enormous and HEAVY, they used special screws and blah blah blah spared no expense with the house, Steel and engineered beams, 2x8, 2x6 and SIPS construction, ecte ect ect And my $600 subwoofers crack my ceiling... I know with a large house in our area cracks and settling is going to happen, but I wish they cracked at eye level so I didn't need a ladder to fix them, not 22 feet up..

Sounds more like the ceiling panels are just unusually fragile, perhaps as a result of their large size, than the subs are powerful. The VTF2s are not weaklings, but I can't see them cracking normal ceiling panels.

 

[ImcLoud]

Sounds more like the ceiling panels are just unusually fragile, perhaps as a result of their large size, than the subs are powerful. The VTF2s are not weaklings, but I can't see them cracking normal ceiling panels.

Building code is 3/8 we went 5/8 thick and it was done by supposedly the best of the best, I watched them install it all and I've built a lot of houses, the ceiling is very strong, it cracks in the same spot, on a joint of course {not cracking the panel itself}, the last time he fixed it it removed the entire joint all the way down the ceiling and redid the entire joint, repainted the entire ceiling and it cracked the next time I shook the house in the same spot.... the room isn't very large at all, about 300sq feet {highish ceilings} and I have obviously heard many subs, the vtf2's hit louder than dual vtf3's in that room, when I spoke with HSU about it {I was returning the VTF3's} he said that he hears that a lot, the 2's are their best value in subwoofers..... I only turn them up hot when showing the system to a guest here and there, I actually don't like too much bass for movies...

 

[lsiberian]

ARE YOU SERIOUS? these are the only speakers in the world that sound better than the b&W CM5 MTX Monitor 600i Dual 6-1/2" 2-Way Tower Speaker | 302-016

I have a wonderful compromise. If you send me one of these drivers I'll build a sub and let you know how it sounds.

 

[fuzz092888]

LOL, I knew you would catch it, I figured Fuzz and a few others too but they let me down...

fuzz hasn't even been on today. This is the first I'm seeing it

 

[fuzz092888]

Building code is 3/8 we went 5/8 thick and it was done by supposedly the best of the best, I watched them install it all and I've built a lot of houses, the ceiling is very strong, it cracks in the same spot, on a joint of course {not cracking the panel itself}, the last time he fixed it it removed the entire joint all the way down the ceiling and redid the entire joint, repainted the entire ceiling and it cracked the next time I shook the house in the same spot.... the room isn't very large at all, about 300sq feet {highish ceilings} and I have obviously heard many subs, the vtf2's hit louder than dual vtf3's in that room, when I spoke with HSU about it {I was returning the VTF3's} he said that he hears that a lot, the 2's are their best value in subwoofers..... I only turn them up hot when showing the system to a guest here and there, I actually don't like too much bass for movies...

I'm not sure how you're cracking anything and I have serious reservations about calling the guy "best of the best" if those subs keep doing that. I'm not exactly running small subs at low volumes and I have yet to damage any ceilings or walls in a place that was definitely not built by the best of the best. Sounds like there's other factors at play here since I doubt the VTF2's hit harder than the two subs I'm running right now.

 

[ImcLoud]

I'm not sure how you're cracking anything and I have serious reservations about calling the guy "best of the best" if those subs keep doing that. I'm not exactly running small subs at low volumes and I have yet to damage any ceilings or walls in a place that was definitely not built by the best of the best. Sounds like there's other factors at play here since I doubt the VTF2's hit harder than the two subs I'm running right now.

To be fair my ceilings are a very tough design, huge pitches and a cut in loft, plus making it tougher there is radiant heat underneath them and since they were done with 5/8 they are much heavier than normal, plus the house in general is very heavy construction, the extras start adding up... And its still brand new, houses in the north east settle and the bigger the house the faster and more it settles... My cousin finished his house a year before I started this one, his was a little bigger at 5500 sq ft and he has fixed a couple dozen cracks over the years... Its just one of the demons you have to deal with when building large houses, anything 2 levels over 3000 sq feet is a different ball game, and when you get into tall cathedrals with sub ceilings and SIP construction there are a lot of things that can go wrong, but its nothing new, I have heard a lot of other people with cracked ceilings when playing subs loud...

 

[fuzz092888]

Sounds like my point is proven. Based on what you've said there are a lot of other contributing factors and might have nothing to do with the subs or how powerful they are. Cracking drywall isn't uncommon depending on the subs and volumes, having it crack over and over again after it's been repaired by a professional points to something other than the subs being an issue. If my 40+ year old place hasn't crumbled to the ground after regularly being pummeled by reference+ level playback over the past year and a half then I'm not convinced there isn't something else amiss with anyone else's place if they repeatedly crack their drywall. The small bungalow I'm in was built by my grandfather who was definitely not a carpenter or builder, so I'd be pretty pissed if I had new construction that was breaking from anything less than what I've put this place through. Especially after all my max SPL experiments.

To be fair my ceilings are a very tough design, huge pitches and a cut in loft, plus making it tougher there is radiant heat underneath them and since they were done with 5/8 they are much heavier than normal, plus the house in general is very heavy construction, the extras start adding up... And its still brand new, houses in the north east settle and the bigger the house the faster and more it settles... My cousin finished his house a year before I started this one, his was a little bigger at 5500 sq ft and he has fixed a couple dozen cracks over the years... Its just one of the demons you have to deal with when building large houses, anything 2 levels over 3000 sq feet is a different ball game, and when you get into tall cathedrals with sub ceilings and SIP construction there are a lot of things that can go wrong, but its nothing new, I have heard a lot of other people with cracked ceilings when playing subs loud...

 

[ImcLoud]

Sounds like my point is proven. Based on what you've said there are a lot of other contributing factors and might have nothing to do with the subs or how powerful they are. Cracking drywall isn't uncommon depending on the subs and volumes, having it crack over and over again after it's been repaired by a professional points to something other than the subs being an issue. If my 40+ year old place hasn't crumbled to the ground after regularly being pummeled by reference+ level playback over the past year and a half then I'm not convinced there isn't something else amiss with anyone else's place if they repeatedly crack their drywall. The small bungalow I'm in was built by my grandfather who was definitely not a carpenter or builder, so I'd be pretty pissed if I had new construction that was breaking from anything less than what I've put this place through. Especially after all my max SPL experiments.

Maybe I should have gotten your grand father over hear, older houses tend to have already done their cracking, and most older construction is SLP {stud lattice plaster} and stands up pretty well, older construction is better {although I wouldn't trade my laser flat walls and ceilings for any old wavy lattice wall, Ill keep fixing the crack}, I own a lot of rental property, stuff from the late 1800's to the 4 family I finished 18 months ago and I can promise you the older houses are harder to repair but also harder to break... I'm not too worried about my ceiling, and it wont crack unless I smash the subs, the crack is hardly noticeable but I like it not cracked better than cracked... The subs do vibrate everything all over the place, not great for sq that is for sure...

My wife says every time I blast the stereo something breaks, my day date carrera broke when I forgot it on top of one of my subs, they fixed it for free and it was my fault for leaving it there, but still because of the sub it broke...