Adding and wiring a Pre-amp into system

[Drummo]

Hi all;

I've bought a Primare SP32 and want to add it into my system. I currently have a Denon 4310 AVR and a Moon 600i Integrated Amplifier. I cuurently run 2 sets of speaker cables, one set from both amps to the speakers. When i listen to music I use the cables from the Moon and for AV from the Denon. I have both sets sitting at the base of the speakers and just swap them depending on what I am doing. There is probably a better way of doing that as well so if someone can suggest something that would be great.
In terms of using the Primare I am a complete newbie. I want to use the Denon as my power amp for the Primare. I've worked out how to connect the 2 amps but can't seem to get the system working. What do I need to do to the Denon to make it work as a power amp? The manual doesn't provide any advice, it justs explains how to use the Denon as a preamp and nothing about a power amp.

Cheers

 

[markw]

While your receiver allows itself to be used as a "front end" to drive an external power amp, it doesn't offer any way to use it's power amps with an external preamplifier. Most receivers don't.

It DOES have an external analog input but that will take a smulti-channel analog source, such as a CD player or some Blu-ray players, and feed it through the Denon's preampifier section but I don't think that's what you want.

Your best bet is getting hold of a separate power amp for your new preamp.

 

[Drummo]

Thanks for that. I was told by others that the Denon would work as a power amp. No, I don't want it to work as you have suggested. I would like to use the Denon purely as a power amp.
So there is no way of using the Denon as a power amp then?

 

[markw]

Wasn't I clear with my truthful answer in my previous post, or are you simply hoping for an answer you want to hear?

Perhaps the "others" know more than I do (it's always possible) and can offer some advice on this matter. Ask them how to do what you want to do, and please report back. I'm always open to learn.

I did provide one alternative. but it's not without some drawbacks.

 

[Pyrrho]

Thanks for that. I was told by others that the Denon would work as a power amp. No, I don't want it to work as you have suggested. I would like to use the Denon purely as a power amp.
So there is no way of using the Denon as a power amp then?

You cannot use it purely as a power amp, unless you open it up and rewire it. You can use it as markw stated, with your new preamp running into an analog input on the Denon. You then can select "pure direct" or whatever Denon calls it, to bypass most of the processing, but you are still running it through the preamp section (which you will know from the fact that the Denon volume control would affect the volume).

There is really no point in doing that, unless there is some kind of special input on the new preamp that is not on the Denon (like a MM phono input, if one is needed). Basically, you will be adding needless circuitry to the signal path, and will degrade the signal. Perhaps not audibly, but it won't be making it better.

The Denon is simply not designed to be used solely as a power amp. That is why the manual does not tell you how to do it, because you can't.

 

[walter duque]

The only way you can use it as a power amp if it has jumpers that will say pre-out power in.

 

[Drummo]

Cheers guys;

Markw - you were clear but another very knowledgeable (well maybe not so much now) told me I can so that's why I queried it

Thanks Pyrrho - your explanation makes it clear, even for me.

I'll have to look at a power amp.

Cheers