Page 1 of 26 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 254

Thread: Audio Power Cables / Cords - Do they really make a difference?

  1. #1
    admin is offline Administrator admin should be listened to
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    96
    Thanks Given
    0
    Thanks Received
    1,226

    Arrow Audio Power Cables / Cords - Do they really make a difference?

    We are sometimes asked our opinion of exotic power cords and cables and whether or not they are beneficial or worth the added cost over the stock power cords that come with A/V electronics. With the help of Blue Jeans Cable, we explore the importance of properly designed power cords while simultaneously debunking the myths and bogus claims perpetuated by many exotic cable manufacturers and A/V review magazines. Always remember the Audioholics.com mantra "only poorly designed cables can be sonically distinguishable" and you will never make a bad purchasing decision. Once all of the nonsensical claims are peeled away, only three very basic and essential metrics are left to ensure quality power transfer from your wall outlet to you’re A/V gear which we discuss in detail herein.


    Discuss "Audio Power Cables / Cords - Do they really make a difference?" here. Read the article.

  2. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to admin For This Useful Post:

    FirstReflection (04-30-2011),haraldo (06-18-2011)

  3. #2
    TLS Guy's Avatar
    TLS Guy is offline Audioholic Warlord TLS Guy should be listened to
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Benedict MN
    Posts
    9,876
    Thanks Given
    865
    Thanks Received
    4,017

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by admin View Post
    We are sometimes asked our opinion of exotic power cords and cables and whether or not they are beneficial or worth the added cost over the stock power cords that come with A/V electronics. With the help of Blue Jeans Cable, we explore the importance of properly designed power cords while simultaneously debunking the myths and bogus claims perpetuated by many exotic cable manufacturers and A/V review magazines. Always remember the Audioholics.com mantra "only poorly designed cables can be sonically distinguishable" and you will never make a bad purchasing decision. Once all of the nonsensical claims are peeled away, only three very basic and essential metrics are left to ensure quality power transfer from your wall outlet to you’re A/V gear which we discuss in detail herein.


    Discuss "Audio Power Cables / Cords - Do they really make a difference?" here. Read the article.
    I'm yet to see an under sized power cord come with a power amp. I suppose with this race to the bottom, especially from China, they are now out there. But a situation like that, if it exists, is totally ridiculous.
    Marantz DV 9600 Oppo BD-83 Marantz AV 8003 Quad current dumping amps X 7 Direct TV HD 20 HD DVR Carter audio workstation RME Fireface 800 Fujitsu 50XHA40 Front left and right Carter dual transmission line studio monitors MK II. Center Carter coaxial transmission line center speaker Rear Carter NFM-1s Center backs Carter dual transmission line studio monitors MK I. My system: - http://mdcarter.smugmug.com/gallery/...27077317_Pufg7

  4. #3
    KurtBJC is offline Audioholic KurtBJC is looking for a job at AH
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    112
    Thanks Given
    4
    Thanks Received
    193

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by TLS Guy View Post
    But a situation like that, if it exists, is totally ridiculous.
    Agreed. However, it's been known to happen. I gave a talk at our local AES chapter last month and spoke with one guy who had encountered just this situation--intermodulation distortion in the presence of heavy bass due to excess draw on the power supply--due to an undersized cord. The stars do need to be aligned just right, though; if the filter cap is generously sized, for example, it's not going to happen in any event.

  5. #4
    TLS Guy's Avatar
    TLS Guy is offline Audioholic Warlord TLS Guy should be listened to
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Benedict MN
    Posts
    9,876
    Thanks Given
    865
    Thanks Received
    4,017

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by KurtBJC View Post
    Agreed. However, it's been known to happen. I gave a talk at our local AES chapter last month and spoke with one guy who had encountered just this situation--intermodulation distortion in the presence of heavy bass due to excess draw on the power supply--due to an undersized cord. The stars do need to be aligned just right, though; if the filter cap is generously sized, for example, it's not going to happen in any event.
    Yes, it takes junk from China to do this. Junk cable and a junk power supply to go with it. Amazing we have descended to the level we even have to discuss this. It's appalling, absolutely appalling.
    Marantz DV 9600 Oppo BD-83 Marantz AV 8003 Quad current dumping amps X 7 Direct TV HD 20 HD DVR Carter audio workstation RME Fireface 800 Fujitsu 50XHA40 Front left and right Carter dual transmission line studio monitors MK II. Center Carter coaxial transmission line center speaker Rear Carter NFM-1s Center backs Carter dual transmission line studio monitors MK I. My system: - http://mdcarter.smugmug.com/gallery/...27077317_Pufg7

  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to TLS Guy For This Useful Post:

    gene (04-29-2011),haraldo (06-18-2011)

  7. #5
    FirstReflection is offline Audioholic General FirstReflection should be listened to
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    1,237
    Thanks Given
    68
    Thanks Received
    812

    Default

    Another great contribution from Kurt Denke and the fine folks over at Blue Jeans Cable

    Personally, I would love to see Blue Jeans Cable offer power cords for two simple reasons:

    1) As Mr. Denke already mentioned, it would sometimes be really nice to have power cords of a length other than what was supplied with the device. Sometimes, you only need 3 feet of power cord, but the device came with 12. Other times, you need 10 feet, but the device only came with 6.

    2) Stiff power cords are also common and can be a nuisance. So it would be great if Blue Jeans Cable could offer nice, thick gauge, but very flexible power cords that can be easily turned around corners and would stay in place.

    I'd also love it if Blue Jeans Cable could offer little "pig-tail" power cords with standard-sized plugs so that I wouldn't have to deal with the major pain in the you-know-what that are the oh-so-common "wall wart" plugs". I HATE how I can have 12 perfectly useable outlets on the back of my UPS battery backup power filter, but those stupid,, huge wall wart plugs make it so that I can only plug in 6 devices!

    So there's a market for power cords, IMO. And I'd love to be able to buy them from Blue Jeans Cable

  8. #6
    Warpdrv's Avatar
    Warpdrv is offline Audioholic Ninja Warpdrv should be listened to
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    @ Milwaukee, WI
    Posts
    4,262
    Thanks Given
    640
    Thanks Received
    1,332

    Default

    I was very surprised to see that a JL Audio F113 comes only with a

    Our Fathom power cord is a 3-prong, 14 AWG and it's 6 ft. long.
    I'm sure they tested it and thats how they ended up with their UL certification, but it would seem to me that one would want to use a larger gauge wire for an amp claiming the power they do...

  9. #7
    Nestor is offline Full Audioholic Nestor should be listened to
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Small Town Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    316
    Thanks Given
    32
    Thanks Received
    58

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Warpdrv View Post
    I was very surprised to see that a JL Audio F113 comes only with a



    I'm sure they tested it and thats how they ended up with their UL certification, but it would seem to me that one would want to use a larger gauge wire for an amp claiming the power they do...
    If your household wiring is 14ga from the receptacle all the way back to the panel, what difference will an extra few feet of a larger gauge make on your cord?
    Yamaha: RX-A3000, CDR-D651 CD Recorder, 2 X THTLP (36");Bash300S; Klipsch: R-F83, RC-64 Ctr, RS-62, RB62, RB42; Sony: BDP-S350 Blu-Ray; Samsung PN63C8000 63"; Squeezebox and Controller; Interconnects-Many

    Relegated-to-secondary system: RX-V2700, Klipsch RB25, Paradigm PW-2200 sub;

    No trees were killed in the sending of this message; however, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
    My THTLP Build Thread

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to Nestor For This Useful Post:

    Rickster71 (04-30-2011)

  11. #8
    Rickster71's Avatar
    Rickster71 is offline Audioholic Spartan Rickster71 should be listened to
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    N.J.
    Posts
    5,518
    Thanks Given
    3,479
    Thanks Received
    3,218

    Default

    Next time you're in home depot etc., take a look at a receptacle.
    There is a small brass jumper that connects the two outlets together,
    That strip of metal is so thin and small, it's soon realized that most talk of oversight power cords is moot. I know that they've calculated it's surface area to handle the rated ampacity, it's just hard to believe when you see how small it is.
    .
    There's what people want to hear.
    There's what they want to believe.
    Then there's the truth.

  12. #9
    Rickster71's Avatar
    Rickster71 is offline Audioholic Spartan Rickster71 should be listened to
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    N.J.
    Posts
    5,518
    Thanks Given
    3,479
    Thanks Received
    3,218

    Default

    ^ Edit meant to say "over sized power cords"
    .
    There's what people want to hear.
    There's what they want to believe.
    Then there's the truth.

  13. #10
    highfigh's Avatar
    highfigh is offline Audioholic Spartan highfigh should be listened to
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Milwaukee area
    Posts
    6,263
    Thanks Given
    16
    Thanks Received
    1,583

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rickster71 View Post
    Next time you're in home depot etc., take a look at a receptacle.
    There is a small brass jumper that connects the two outlets together,
    That strip of metal is so thin and small, it's soon realized that most talk of oversight power cords is moot. I know that they've calculated it's surface area to handle the rated ampacity, it's just hard to believe when you see how small it is.
    But, doesn't the load carrying ability depend on the length and cross-sectional area? When I did 12V systems, we were always taught that the length of the conductor was as important as the gauge.
    Never eat anything that squirts out of a machine.

Page 1 of 26 12311 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •