What display format interests you the most?

Discussion in 'GENERAL AV Discussions' started by Clint DeBoer, Jun 11, 2004.

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What display technologies do you like best?

  1. Plasma Displays

    17 vote(s)
    17.7%
  2. LCD Flat Panels

    20 vote(s)
    20.8%
  3. DLP Rear Projection

    29 vote(s)
    30.2%
  4. LCoS Rear Projection

    13 vote(s)
    13.5%
  5. LCD Rear Projection

    9 vote(s)
    9.4%
  6. DLP Front Projectors

    21 vote(s)
    21.9%
  7. LCD Front Projectors

    6 vote(s)
    6.3%
  8. DILA/LCoS Front Projectors

    9 vote(s)
    9.4%
  9. I like peanut butter

    24 vote(s)
    25.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Clint DeBoer Banned

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    We're curious what types of displays you are most interested in having Audioholics Review. This can be based on formats you own, plan to own, or have an interest in getting more information on.

    Post your specific brand/model recommendations below after voting in this poll.
  2. jzac Audioholic

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    DLP & LCDs

    It will be cool if this site can review Yamaha, Toshiba and Sony products for DLP and LCD Front Projectors. Any ideas when Yamaha's LPX-510 and DLP-1100 is going to be reviewed here (if at all)? Or, if Toshiba's mt8 can be reviewed? Hope to see reviews here first than elsewhere... :) Thx!

    Cheers
    jzac,
  3. Clint DeBoer Banned

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    We have the Yamaha LPX-510 in house right now for review. So far it's an excellent performer, provided you are just over 1.5 screen-widths away from the screen.
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2004
  4. jzac Audioholic

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    Dlp?

    Do you have any DLP front projectors coming up for review? I'll keep an eye out for your LPX-510 review.

    Thanks!
    jzac,
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    Sharp LCD's - great value and performance

    We have been running a first generation 30" sharp LCD for about a year now. It is wall mounted in our small LR without the removeable speakers. I thought it was a bargain last summer at a close out price of 3200 for the floor model. You can now buy the 30-32" LCDs for well under $3k which is an absolute bargain in my opinion. The picture quality is supurb and they are much lighter than the plasmas making the mounting options greater. You should review these latest generation displays, as they are bound to be the TV/display of choice for the largest number of people in the coming years imho.

    Richard
  6. annunaki Moderator

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    I have an industry insider friend, (my old boss) explain to me that LCD flat panel displays (30" range) will be dropping to around the $1000-$1500 by this time in '06.

    I would like to see some reviews on 30"-40" LCD panels. Maybe a shoot out type review. Those are always interesting. JVC's new HD-ILA sets would also be a much welcome review.
  7. Rip Van Woofer Audioholic General

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    Where's the button for "stereo-opticon"? ;)

    Maybe it's because I'm a middle aged fart, but me & Mrs Van W. are perfectly happy with our 27" CRT TV and cheapo VCR/DVD combo. HT is cool and all, but really now -- is The Sopranos really any more gripping in 5.1 and on a HD front projection system? Is The Simpsons any funnier?

    End of curmudgeonly harrumphing. (Yep, I chose "peanut butter".)
  8. Rob Babcock Moderator

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    I'm actually very intrigued with OLED technology. Alas, that wasn't one of the choices...
  9. rgriffin25 Moderator

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    Rip,

    I think you are in a good position with your current TV and combi-player. The hard part would be having your own HT, then going to someone's house that does not have a HT or a big screen to watch a game or a moivie. Trust me, you would miss it then! :p
  10. Dr. Anthony Audioholic Intern

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    I have been following OLED for some time now and have not had many people comment on this technology. I saw it over a year ago when the first tiny screens were first being devloped. Only until recently has a 15" display even become a reality. I think this technology has the potential to completely take over the plasma market if they ever get it to the point of a true working prototype in any large sized format. They say it will replace most LCD's in laptops. As a transmissive rather than nonemissive technology that only uses 2-10 volts it is truly amazing.

    It was discovered back in 1987 by Dr. Tang at Eastman Kodak and has been the basis for the current technology that is now in its 3rd generation. In the late 80's they started "doping" the organic material to enhance color improvements using florescent dyes but has taken a very long time to develop. First applications will include car DVD screens, phones, elecrtronics displays, portable DVD screens and laptop screens. Eventually they will get to HDTV but I don't know when. They are still at least a year off by my estimation to any large screen format.

    Here are some good links I have found.

    http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=1473/1481&pq-locale=en_US
    http://www.btgplc.com/portfolio/OLED.html
    http://www.wave-report.com/tutorials/oled.htm

    Kodak has licensed its OLED technologies to the following companies

    DENSO Corp.
    eMagin Corp.
    Lite Array Inc.
    Nippon Seiki Co., Ltd.
    Opsys Ltd.
    Opto Tech Corp.
    OPTREX Corp.
    Pioneer Electronics Corp.
    Ritek Corp.
    Rohm Ltd.
    Samsung NEC Mobile Display Co., Ltd.
    Sanyo Electric Co., Ltd., a Kodak joint-development partner
    TDK Corp.
    TECO Electric & Machinery Co., Ltd.
    Truly International
    Varitronix International Ltd.

    Look to them to provide the next generation of displays.
  11. Rob Babcock Moderator

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    The potential is staggering, Doc A. No backlight presumably means longer life and low power consumption. The OLED panels are very light, thin & also flexible ( :eek: )- conceivably you could make a HUD with them in a car, no? This technology should totally kill LCD off, and probably plasma, too. But it could also be a rival to FPTV, too, depending on the cost. And if it becomes practical to make very large screens.

    Imagine- you buy a 100" screen that requires no PJ, and simply unroll it from a tube! Okay, you'd probably need a frame that contained P/S, input jacks, etc etc., but I'm 'blue skying' here.

    Also imagine a small (say, 2"x4") full color monitor on each of your component in place of an LED readout. Or a small full color panel on your universal remote. With the low power consumption of OLED it would be practical.
  12. hopjohn Full Audioholic

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    ditto

    I was looking for the very same thing, that would have been my choice.
  13. BMXTRIX Audioholic Spartan

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    For existing technologies, while I love front projection and read everything out there, www.projectorcentral.com really does an awesome job with front projection testing and reviews. It would be killer for your two websites to form some sort of partnering agreement - even something informal as you both feed off each other.

    So, I will let them continue with projectors and would like to see some lcd stuff. Anything new is really interesting and lcd seems like it is really being worked on as the 'better' plasma. But, when will we actually see it? The new Sony 42"? The Samsung? Aquos? I think that this year we will see an LCD or two that really shines.
  14. bpape Audioholic Chief

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    Still a die-hard

    I'm still hanging on to my CRT's for now. :D CRT RP upstairs and CRT FT downstairs. Haven't seen ANYTHING that would touch my XG135 top to bottom from any of those listed above.
  15. JohnA Audioholic Chief

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    Smooth or chunky

    Hey Rip

  16. Wyngdh Audioholic Intern

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    I'm an absolute novice is this sphere and am patiently waiting to see who will win HT - LCD or plasma.
  17. Buckeyefan 1 Audioholic Ninja

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    For my money, it would be LCD flat. I have a 20" LCD for my PC and it's amazing. The only time I lose black level is when I stand up. If you are at eye level or lower, the blacks are great. Brightness is excellent.

    I have seen too many Plasma screens with burn in. Recently, I have seen the newer Plasma's shifting their screens to avoid burn in, which is annoying. I'm sure the technology will eliminate the problems, but the price points are just too high to compete with LCD right now.

    A lot of us have expensive entertainment centers that house large CRT's or projection tv's. The larger flat screen LCD's are meant to be mounted on a wall to save space. What a waste to put a 32" or larger LCD in a 18" deep oak wall unit. That's my dilemma. My next LCD will go in the living room b/c our oak wall unit ran us almost $2000 several years ago. We won't be using it for firewood anytime soon. Fortunately, a 42" wide screen plasma fits in the opening perfectly.

    Someone said earlier that LCD's will drop to under $1500 for 30" units in 2006. They are there now. Here's one of the better 32" LCD units - and check out the price!

    http://www.syntaxgroups.com/products/32inch_productd.html

    http://www.pricescan.com/electronics/items/item522399.asp?sid=G5109724
  18. REWJR Junior Audioholic

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    D5 LCD 1080P LCD front throw projector

    I think the newest D5 panels from EPSON will transform the LCD market for the fall and into 2006 .

    Gonna give the rainbow coalition crowd a run for it's money ... :)

    The next tech on the horizon that looks very promising is Toshiba - Cannon's
    SED (Surface-conduction Electron-emitter Display) .

    http://www.canon.com/technology/detail/device/sed_display/
  19. inmypjs Junior Audioholic

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    Samsung just launched their 40" OLED panel
    http://www.samsung.com/ph/presscenter/samsunginthephilippines/productnews_20050519_0000119270.asp
    http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000110043944/
    [​IMG]

    Not to mention, Samsung SDI's 32" Vixlim TV
    http://www.i4u.com/article1933.html
    http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/gadgetbuzz/0,39041749,39199954,00.htm
    [​IMG][​IMG]
    Is it actually slimmer than their SlimFit TV?

    Toshiba will be coming out with their SED TVs on January of 2006
    http://blog.sagetechnology.com/archive/category/19.aspx
    [​IMG]

    And the ugly LG Philips CyberTube+Super-Slim CRT
    http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000180020920/
    [​IMG]

    Who will emerge the victor? I wish Sony is in the fray but they are concentrating now on LCDs. I would want to go for whoever has the flattest of the technologies above with a widescreen size of over 36".

    SO I CHOSE PEANUT BUTTER
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2005
  20. Mr. Lamb Fries Full Audioholic

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    I Like the look of plasma best but for the money I would get a DLP rear projection.

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