Without getting too bogged down in semantics, let's just say I like my sub but I'm sure there's better subs out there that have more punch and detail and not quite as woofy (not that the Emotiva's bad per se, but I'm sure you know about the upgrade bug people get). And yes I'm tuned my room and considered placement as much as I can with my living space situation. I don't have any Audyssey EQ set at all, all manual setup using my senses through my live sound engineering days and various articles here on Audioholics and others.