Selling my Emo 12's, I can never use them since my baby was born. I pamper my equipment and since they both sit on each side of my couch they have never been set higher than 1/4 level. They sit on the 9 o'clock position, with a -5.5 on my receiver. They are as good as it gets to being new, still have boxes and manuals. $650 for the pair +shipping.