Help me choose Sony 85 X80k vs TCL 85 Q6 QLED

[Danzilla31]

Hey guys TVs have gotten to affordable for me to go with projectors anymore in my bedroom setup

I like immersion but I don't want to lug a 98 inch TV upstairs

I feel 85 would be the sweet spot for me

Best Buy is selling the Sony for 1000 the TCL for 900.

Im wondering which of these 2 TVs would be better I don't want top of the line model for the bedroom but I don't want a bottom of the barrel model either

The room is very light controlled kept very dark I'm at 13 feet viewing distance will be straight on for viewing so viewing angles is not an issue

Thank you for your help

Dan

 

[panteragstk]

I'd probably go with Sony over TCL simply because Sony is going to have a higher quality panel. With brands like TCL, you sorta play the panel lottery. I did that with Vizio, and won't ever again.

I have one LCD tv that I watch, and it's an older Sony. It still looks and works great after 6 or so years.

 

[Tankini]

I'd probably go with Sony over TCL simply because Sony is going to have a higher quality panel. With brands like TCL, you sorta play the panel lottery. I did that with Vizio, and won't ever again.

I have one LCD tv that I watch, and it's an older Sony. It still looks and works great after 6 or so years.

Sony suppose to have the best reliability. +1 on your recommendation, like you I've put off spending more on a quality T V. I've tried Vizio, Hisense lately and your absolutely correct It's a crap shoot with the panels.
As I post this my Hisense 65 U6G has been buggy from jump, plus now it has develop a dark spot on the left side of the screen. 3+ years old maybe less. Next TV, will be a Sony. Their new line just came out Bavaria 7 maybe the 8.

@Danzilla31 my oldest Son has two Sony TV's one 65" he got back in 2015 in his HT setup never has had an issue with it. The other he gave to his Son, it's a 40" it's close to 12 years old.

 

[j_garcia]

TCL is not a top tier manufacturer. That's why they're cheaper. Even though they have the tech specs, their panels are not as good.

 

[Tankini]

Here's a photo of that dark spot that developed over the last week. TV will be 3 years old this coming August. These Hisense models came out in 2020, I purchase this T V from Amazon back in August of 2021. But like I've stated in my other post, has been buggy since jump since I first got it, it's still buggy. So now that this model has been out for a few years, many issues are starting to be reported by consumers. I can't recommend the Hisense brand.

Hisense 65" U6G

 

[Cos]

I have plenty of friends who use the Hisence U8 models, but none for three years. One just purchased the 98in one, I hope his fate is not the same. All my TVs are Sony, with the exception of a Samsung in my fitness room. It was formerly my office but moved that to the 1st floor xtra room.

 

[Danzilla31]

I have plenty of friends who use the Hisence U8 models, but none for three years. One just purchased the 98in one, I hope his fate is not the same. All my TVs are Sony, with the exception of a Samsung in my fitness room. It was formerly my office but moved that to the 1st floor xtra room.

Thanks for all input guys

After doing my research I went with a mid tier 85 inch Samsung the Q70.

TCL etc cost less and spec wise I could've gotten a better TV but as mentioned the research I did on quality issues I didn't feel comfortable with anything less then a Samsung or Sony. Very happy with it so far.

 

[Tankini]

Thanks for all input guys

After doing my research I went with a mid tier 85 inch Samsung the Q70.

TCL etc cost less and spec wise I could've gotten a better TV but as mentioned the research I did on quality issues I didn't feel comfortable with anything less then a Samsung or Sony. Very happy with it so far.

Very nice selection, I looked at that model it is a good one for sure. It isn't made in China that's a big plus. I'm trying to hold up, hoping that dark spot doesn't spread. That's what I get for going cheap. Hisense just came out with their new line of 2024 models.

TCL also, but you have to really dig deep them Chinese T V's ain't all that. I also discovered that the Nit rate on those cheap TVs aren't what they are saying. Hisense 2024 models U6N says 600 Nits peak but actually puts out no more than 400 nits, U7N 500 nits and their U8N 700 nits.

 

[isolar8001]

Hisense 2024 models U6N says 600 Nits peak but actually puts out no more than 400 nits, U7N 500 nits and their U8N 700 nits.

Don't know where you got those figures....U8N has 3500 nits according to Caleb.
Full screen nits are about a 1000. This is for HDR...you might be looking at SDR figures.
But, it's the smaller 10 percent window which is the basis for all nit comparisons between sets make to make.

"As for HDR, here’s the news I know a lot of you want to read: Peak brightness from a 10% white window came in at over 3,500 nits. Full-screen white measured a solid 1,000 nits. Without a doubt, this TV can get extremely bright. That’s going to be a trend here."

Hisense U8N review: As close to OLED as it gets? | Digital Trends

The Hisense U8N continues to put pressure on the competition with intense brightness, deep blacks, and vibrant color.

www.digitaltrends.com

Even my Hisense H9G (in storage, an iconic set) from 5 years ago did almost 1500 nits in HDR, 1300 in SDR.

Hisense H9G Review (55H9G, 65H9G)

The Hisense H9G is a flagship 4k LED TV that offers impressive performance. It provides good value for its price and competes with many other high-end, more expe...

www.rtings.com

 

[Tankini]

Don't know where you got those figures....U8N has 3500 nits according to Caleb.
Full screen nits are about a 1000. This is for HDR...you might be looking at SDR figures.
But, it's the smaller 10 percent window which is the basis for all nit comparisons between sets make to make.

"As for HDR, here’s the news I know a lot of you want to read: Peak brightness from a 10% white window came in at over 3,500 nits. Full-screen white measured a solid 1,000 nits. Without a doubt, this TV can get extremely bright. That’s going to be a trend here."

Hisense U8N review: As close to OLED as it gets? | Digital Trends

The Hisense U8N continues to put pressure on the competition with intense brightness, deep blacks, and vibrant color.

www.digitaltrends.com

Even my Hisense H9G (in storage, an iconic set) from 5 years ago did almost 1500 nits in HDR, 1300 in SDR.

Hisense H9G Review (55H9G, 65H9G)

The Hisense H9G is a flagship 4k LED TV that offers impressive performance. It provides good value for its price and competes with many other high-end, more expe...

www.rtings.com

Found this, from this site says, 400 cd/m and 600 peak cd/m for the 65 U6N. Sony 2024 Bravia 9 Supposed to hit close to 4000 nits peak.

Hisense U6N / U68N / U65N 4K Mini LED TVs specifications and prices for the U.S. and Canada

The Hisense U6N / U68N / U65N series is the last of the trio of 4K Mini LED series by the brand. It comprises four models with the brand's standard Mini LED backlight solution and full array local dimming. They are also based on the Hi-View Engine...

www.displayspecifications.com

 

[isolar8001]

Found this, from this site says, 400 cd/m and 600 peak cd/m for the 65 U6N. Sony 2024 Bravia 9 Supposed to hit close to 4000 nits peak.

Hisense U6N / U68N / U65N 4K Mini LED TVs specifications and prices for the U.S. and Canada

The Hisense U6N / U68N / U65N series is the last of the trio of 4K Mini LED series by the brand. It comprises four models with the brand's standard Mini LED backlight solution and full array local dimming. They are also based on the Hi-View Engine...

www.displayspecifications.com

That site is not a reliable source for actual specs.... Further down they list 3000 nits peak which is correct...Hisense themselves rate the U8N at 3000 nits.
As usual, they go far above that. All sets are listed at peak brightness as far as nits go, the Bravia 9 included at 4000 nits...and the Bravia 9 costs 2000 dollars more.
For most users that are streaming nowadays, all streaming content is capped at 1000 nits....so, a lot of these specs are just smoke.

Displayspecifications doesn't even list the nits for the Bravia 9.

64.5" Sony K-65XR90 GB - Specifications

Specifications of Sony K-65XR90 GB. Display: 64.5 in, VA, Mini LED, 3840 x 2160 pixels, Viewing angles (H/V): 178 ° / 178 °, Refresh rate: 40 Hz - 120 Hz, TV tuner: Analog (NTSC/PAL/SECAM), DVB-T, DVB-T2, DVB-C, DVB-S, DVB-S2, Cores: 4, Storage: 32 GB, Dimensions: 1443 x 835 x 48 mm, Weight...

www.displayspecifications.com

The new TCL QM8 is 5000 nits for around 1500 dollars.

You had issues with a U6G, which is the el cheapo model...but if you look around, these things can happen with any make.
Audioholics doesn't get into video/tv sets much....just look on AVS and you will find brand new Sonys and Samsungs can have issues also....not to mention sets that develop issues after 3 or 4 years.
Nothing is made like it used to be made.

 

[Tankini]

Thanks for all input guys

After doing my research I went with a mid tier 85 inch Samsung the Q70.

TCL etc cost less and spec wise I could've gotten a better TV but as mentioned the research I did on quality issues I didn't feel comfortable with anything less then a Samsung or Sony. Very happy with it so far.

Feel you Dan, Hisense new 2024 line just hit the store, already applying big discounts. They upped their game. Added a new Pro chip more storage more mini backlights, their 65 U6N doesn't have the new Pro chip, but adds more mini backlights to 240. My 65 U6G only has 88 mini backlights. I really don't mind the bugs I knew that going with Hisense, also knew about the panel lottery with this brand. My 1st one had to send back because of a panel issue. This one took a little longer to develop panel issue. I say panel issue, but from my research seems to be a pixel issue.

Agree with you on the issue thing though. Hisense has a much higher issue rate than say, Sony or Samsung, LG, twice as much issues. But man, nothing out there can touch Hisense, TCL price wise. But where It counts, reliability, quality and longevity. Trade offs if one counts.

 

[Tankini]

That site is not a reliable source for actual specs.... Further down they list 3000 nits peak which is correct...Hisense themselves rate the U8N at 3000 nits.
As usual, they go far above that. All sets are listed at peak brightness as far as nits go, the Bravia 9 included at 4000 nits...and the Bravia 9 costs 2000 dollars more.
For most users that are streaming nowadays, all streaming content is capped at 1000 nits....so, a lot of these specs are just smoke.

Displayspecifications doesn't even list the nits for the Bravia 9.

64.5" Sony K-65XR90 GB - Specifications

Specifications of Sony K-65XR90 GB. Display: 64.5 in, VA, Mini LED, 3840 x 2160 pixels, Viewing angles (H/V): 178 ° / 178 °, Refresh rate: 40 Hz - 120 Hz, TV tuner: Analog (NTSC/PAL/SECAM), DVB-T, DVB-T2, DVB-C, DVB-S, DVB-S2, Cores: 4, Storage: 32 GB, Dimensions: 1443 x 835 x 48 mm, Weight...

www.displayspecifications.com

The new TCL QM8 is 5000 nits for around 1500 dollars.

You had issues with a U6G, which is the el cheapo model...but if you look around, these things can happen with any make.
Audioholics doesn't get into video/tv sets much....just look on AVS and you will find brand new Sonys and Samsungs can have issues also....not to mention sets that develop issues after 3 or 4 years.
Nothing is made like it used to be made.

"Sony never likes to discuss exact luminance figures, but it claims that the Bravia 9s are around 50% brighter than the X95Ls. Which, given that I measured light peaks of nearly 1600 nits on the X95Ls, would suggest a peak brightness of around 2400 nits on the Bravia 9s. That’s not quite 4,000 nits, of course, but if confirmed by measurements of final review".

I made a mistake on the Sony 9 nit peak nit rate, it's their "Pro, the HX3110, in contrast, has a peak brightness of 4,000 nits." It's in the same article mentioned. What they are really saying it's 50% brighter than their X95L.

Your are Correct about the cap on moves shot at 1K nits, Have known that for quite some time though.
I am having very hard time justifying spending 1200 or more.

 

[Tankini]

That site is not a reliable source for actual specs.... Further down they list 3000 nits peak which is correct...Hisense themselves rate the U8N at 3000 nits.
As usual, they go far above that. All sets are listed at peak brightness as far as nits go, the Bravia 9 included at 4000 nits...and the Bravia 9 costs 2000 dollars more.
For most users that are streaming nowadays, all streaming content is capped at 1000 nits....so, a lot of these specs are just smoke.

Displayspecifications doesn't even list the nits for the Bravia 9.

64.5" Sony K-65XR90 GB - Specifications

Specifications of Sony K-65XR90 GB. Display: 64.5 in, VA, Mini LED, 3840 x 2160 pixels, Viewing angles (H/V): 178 ° / 178 °, Refresh rate: 40 Hz - 120 Hz, TV tuner: Analog (NTSC/PAL/SECAM), DVB-T, DVB-T2, DVB-C, DVB-S, DVB-S2, Cores: 4, Storage: 32 GB, Dimensions: 1443 x 835 x 48 mm, Weight...

www.displayspecifications.com

The new TCL QM8 is 5000 nits for around 1500 dollars.

You had issues with a U6G, which is the el cheapo model...but if you look around, these things can happen with any make.
Audioholics doesn't get into video/tv sets much....just look on AVS and you will find brand new Sonys and Samsungs can have issues also....not to mention sets that develop issues after 3 or 4 years.
Nothing is made like it used to be made.

That is why I went with Hisense 65U6G. "The 65 U6N is at 599 on BB and Amazon". 65 U6G at 600 peak, it hits really nice for HDR when watching moves from a 4K Blu-ray player. Outside of the few bug issues, it performs great Dolby Vision 4K move. The Blacks on that U6G hits at a 9.6 rate score, OLED hits a perfect 10 score. That was one of the reasons I went with it over the U7G, which has a much lower Black uniformity of 6.9. Guess I'm to old school, if one would've told me that I'd spend 1K or more on a TV I would have told them they were nuts.