Axiom Audio LFR1100 Tower Loudspeaker Preview

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  1. gene Audioholics Master Chief Administrator

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    Axiom Audio just threw up some pics of their new flagship LFR1100 (Linear Field Radiator) OmniDirectional DSP Loudspeaker on their facebook page and forums. They will be demoing this speaker at the Salon Son & Image show later this month in Montreal Canada. This speaker seems to be something they have been hinting at and working on for quite some time, so it's pretty big news for them.

    Details are just emerging at this point but here is what we've been able to gather:

    • The LFR1100 (if that's the model# they will be using) features similar drivers to their current flagship M80v3 but adds an additional 6-1/2" bass driver on the front side
    • The cabinet is the same angular, legacy design as their other floorstanding speakers.
    • You can expect deeper bass response with the additional bass driver and larger cabinet
    • The LFR1100 adds 4 additional drivers on the rear cabinet: (2) 1" titanium tweeters and (2) 4" midbass/midrange drivers
    • The LFR1100 works in conjunction with an outboard DSP box which we suspect gets connected line level between the preamp and power amp
    • Each LFR1100 requires two (2) power amplifiers (channels) to operate, since the rear drivers are NOT connected to the front drivers
    • The cabinet height of the LFR1100 is about 4 feet tall and same depth as the M80v3, and we suspect it will weigh around 70lbs each
    • The LFR1100 are fitted with an outrigger system (they look very similar to the attractive ones on the EMP E55ti and E5ti in fact)
    • Based on Axiom pricing structure, we guesstimate these speakers will sell for around $2500/pair in standard finishes, but we'll have to wait to find out - that's just a guess.
    This new speaker represents a very different direction for Axiom Audio from what we can see. Apparently they now feel that beyond $1400/pair you actually can make a better sounding speaker rather than just adding to cosmetics and appeal. They seem to be going after the audiophile who wants a huge soundstage, lots of dynamic capabilities and bleeding edge DSP technology to produce the best of both worlds between a direct radiator and a bipolar - or as Axiom is calling it, an "omnidirectional" loudspeaker. Suffice it to say, there is no other speaker on the market at this price range designed like this and it really makes for a standout product for them.

    Axiom has also hinted that their new DSP box will become available for other existing models in their lineup to "significantly improve" upon their sound.

    We wonder if Axiom will also be taking this approach with a matching center channel boasting rear firing drivers. As you know, Axiom has recently introduced two new center channel speakers, the VP160v3 and VP180v3 to better timbre-match their M60v3's & M80v3's and also address the off axis lobing and limited dynamic range of their former VP150v3.

    It seems Axiom has been busy in the last year expanding their product line, which is a good thing for those wanting more and who are able to accommodate larger sized speakers to achieve larger sized performance. We look forward to finding out more about these new speakers.

    What are your thoughts on the new Axiom speakers?

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    Update 3/26
    Changed name from M100v3 to LFR1100 since Axiom officially named the speaker.
    [*]These speakers still utilize passive crossovers but require the separate 4 Channel DSP to properly operate which is included in the system price.
    [*]Axiom announced the pricing of the LFR1100's will be $3,760/pair (including DSP) in standard finish.
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  2. j_garcia Audioholic Jedi

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    Interesting that they completely separated the front from the rear and the use of the DSP to manage them. I wouldn't mind hearing them.
  3. gtpsuper24 Full Audioholic

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    Wow really tall cabinet, hope they take cabinet bracing seriously on this model. But I really doubt that.
  4. agarwalro Audioholic Ninja

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    As a previous Axiom owner, I have followed their fall from grace with mixed emotions. I hope this speaker heralds their return to the AV community's beloved status.
  5. TLS Guy Audioholic Overlord

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    I would seriously doubt it. They would be better off with less drivers, but better ones, a better crossover and probably a better cabinet.

    Good speakers do not need speakers firing out the back, to produce a deep and wide sound stage.

    My view is that rear firing speakers is a resort of the desperate.
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  6. j_garcia Audioholic Jedi

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    That's where they seem to think that the DSP will help, which is why I'm curious to hear them, but I agree with TLS, I don't think rear firing drivers are the answer.
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    Now it seems to me he is trying to solve the full space/half space transition problem. That is what BSE is for and it does not require hanging drivers on the back!

    There is an advantage in the separate amp, however. The full space/half space radiation transition problem is not just dependent on the baffle width, but the location of the speaker in the room and to some extent the room.

    So I use active BSE on my front three speakers, and it is a huge advantage.
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    I think they need more tweeters and midrange drivers on both sides of the speaker in addition to the front & back. More is better. That's their motto. :eek::D

    One Center speaker is good, two Centers is even better, and three Centers is best.:D
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    But all those tweeters and woofers looks awesome to the average AV consumer. So more must be better. :D Don't forget theres also room on the top and bottom for even more woofers and tweeters :eek:

    I feel sorry for the other speaker brands cause you just know that these speakers will beat out any speaker Axiom puts them against in their so called DBT. Why would I want to spend $100k on Wilsons, Focals, Revels when I can just buy the new Axioms which of course sounds similarily good :p
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    I just had a case of déjà va while reading this article. All I could think about was the Bose 901 and their fancy outboard EQ system.
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    Man, how did I overlook that?:eek:

    Yes, drivers on top................and bottom as well.:eek::D
  12. agarwalro Audioholic Ninja

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    A bit premature innit?

    On the lines of your crossover contention, IMO, they should just do away with the passive one altogether and implement an active DSP.

    I'm trying to qualify this better for myself. Is that comment referring to 'rear firing' like the BP7000SC with rear facing speakers and not open baffle rear firing like the Orion?
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    I'm referring to rear firing monopole drivers, not open baffle.
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    Axiom is also designing and manufacturing an active DSP flagship speaker for Bryston.

    Bryston Loudspeakers
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    I'm not digging the front grill but maybe that's just me. I'd like to see Axiom do a complete cabinet redesign. I'd like to hear these though.
  16. j_garcia Audioholic Jedi

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    LOL. Kinda a similar idea I guess :)
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    I spoke with Ian once and he seem to indicate he doesn't believe in DSP then.
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    Despite the negativity, I see some serious possible advantages in this, if they can get cardioid response out of it.

    The problem is, that the cabinet looks too deep. If the cabinet is deeper than it is wide they'll run into serious issues even with DSP.

    Also, the frequency range that could most benefit from going cardioid is bass, and yet it's the bass woofers that seem to be lacking rear wave.

    I gotta wonder what Axiom had in mind when they made this speaker. It's... odd.

    Even the M80 is a 3-way speaker. That means six channels to drive it. Why do away with the passive if the active gets no better results?

    In much more exciting news on the topic of cardioid, AJ in FLA's new speakers got rave reviews at Axpona last weekend!
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    AJ said he got requests for distribution in Finland or something like that. Also got a lot of orders for his speakers. Got Bob Carver & the vice president of KEF to listen to his speakers and everything. Coolness.:cool:

    AJ's 1812 Overture speaker system was interesting; looked like a kick-a$$ system.:D
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    lol.

    Now if he used HIS choice of amps and cable, they would all be like

    "MEH" :rolleyes: :D

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