$12K System Power Conditioning

[EdR]

Hi,

Looking over the just posted 12K system, I'm curious why the Monster surge supressor at about $150 was reccommended over the Tripp Lite version that seems to do about the same thing for about half the price.
I'm refering to the Isobar 6 DBS Premium Surge Suppressor
at $77.50 which offers staged RF filtering between outlet banks, and coax and phone line (for Tivo etc.) protection.

[RLA]

Hi
Other than I have never used the Trip Lite or reviewed it the specs dont apear the same nor does the build quality
I may be wrong as I am just judging the Trip lite based
on what I read on there site  

Monster
$250,000 Connected Equipment Warranty. Extra-long 8ft PowerLine® 200 AC power cord. 24k gold contact plug for maximum corrosion resistance and power transfer. 8 outlets for AC surge protection. 3 pair ultra-low loss, protected coaxial connections for cable TV/HDTV. 1 pair of protected phone/network connections for satellite/TiVo/phone/network protection. Monster Clean PowerTM Stage 2 v.2.0 circuitry filter dramatically reduces electronic noise. 2775 joule rating provides a high level of surge absorption. Tri-Mode power protection circuitry with audible alarm and auto disconnect.

Isobar

6 outlets/6-ft. cord 2350 joule rating All metal housing Isolated filter banks $50,000 Ultimate Lifetime Insurance (USA & Canada only)

[EdR]

Hi,

I've got one right here.  The thing is built like a tank, excellent fit and finish.  Other than the 'stage 2' filters, which I can't figure out from the monster website what that means, it appears to offer every bit as much protection- 2,850 joules and 92,000 amp protection with a 0 ns (!) response time.  In addition, it offers noise filters between each outlet pair, so if your amp is plugged into the top pair and the CD player into the bottom, there are two noise filters between them, and three between the amp and outlet.

They however, did not gold plate the plug, but did the coax connections.  For half the money, it's my choice.  I admit that their website leaves much to be desired, the box is far more informative- telling us for example that in addition to MOV's, there are toroidal balanced chokes and heavy duty ferrite rod-core inductors, as well as VHF and HF capacitors in the circuit.  I understand from EE's who have discected them that the design soaks up minor surges so that the MOV's only ever see the big hits and thus tend not to degrade in normal use.

[Dan Banquer]

I'll agree with EdR here. The tripplite is all anyone should need. It's also why it's practically a standard for the electronics industry here in the states.
I'll hazard a guess that to most consumers that the name recognition will go to Monster due to the whopping amount marketing that they do.
              d.b.

[gene]

Where can one buy these?  Are they commercially available?  I would prefer to recommend a less costly alternative such as what you suggest if they are easily accesible for purchasing and installation.  Thanks.

[zumbo]

Parts Express. $77.50

[Dan Banquer]

They are at a number of electronics distributors. www.jameco.com has the Tripplite Isobar Ultra 8 for just under 80.00. Does the Tripplite web site give a list of distributors?
* * * * * * d.b.

[ThA tRiXtA]

Hey EdR -

as a person looknig for a power conditioning unit, what your saying is that thing filters the ac line for noise as well?

What is the model of tripplite bar you have?

Thanks for your time!

Rob

[Rip Van Woofer]

Dan Banquer : I'll hazard a guess that to most consumers that the name recognition will go to Monster due to the whopping amount marketing that they do. Amen to that. To my mind, Monster is fully the equivalent of Bose as a company founded mainly on marketing, whose products are, at best, overpriced and at worst, borderline frauds. Maybe not even borderline. Anyway, they're guilty unless proven innocent in my book. And yes, in a moment of weakness and ignorance a couple of years back I bought a Monster speaker switch box. "... it is surely a morally ambiguous position to persuade non-technical people that to get a really good sound they have to buy £2000 preamps and so on, when both technical orthodoxy and common sense indicate that this is quite unnecessary. " -- Doug Self "Audio Wisdom": Links for the new or confused audiophile. Reply With Quote 03-18-2004, 02:47 PM #10 EdR Audioholic EdR is a forum member in good standing Join Date Jan 2004 Posts 111 Thanks Given 0 Thanks Received 0 gene : Where can one buy these? *Are they commercially available? *I would prefer to recommend a less costly alternative such as what you suggest if they are easily accesible for purchasing and installation. *Thanks. Gene, I got mine from Parts Express which I heard about on this very site They carry a complete line of Tripp Lite products including power conditioning, voltage regulators, and isolation transformers as well as their excellent surge suppressors. A review and sorting out of which of these products might be helpful to us audioholics would be most welcome. As for the 'installation' of the  ISOBAR 6 DBS which I got.....well..it's kind of complex   NOT!! Just like any other surge suppressor, like a powerstrip on steroids- forgot to mention the all steel case.  Just plug it in, and plug in your components. Reply With Quote « Previous Thread | Next Thread » Posting Permissions You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts   BB code is On Smilies are On [IMG] code is On [VIDEO] code is On HTML code is On Trackbacks are On Pingbacks are On Refbacks are On Forum Rules -- Audio 2013 -- Default Mobile Style Audioholics.com Privacy Statement Top All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:57 AM. Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.0 Copyright © 2013 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. vBulletin Services by vbskinstudio.com Copyright 2013 AUDIOHOLICS, LLC

[EdR]

gene : Where can one buy these? *Are they commercially available? *I would prefer to recommend a less costly alternative such as what you suggest if they are easily accesible for purchasing and installation. *Thanks. Gene, I got mine from Parts Express which I heard about on this very site They carry a complete line of Tripp Lite products including power conditioning, voltage regulators, and isolation transformers as well as their excellent surge suppressors. A review and sorting out of which of these products might be helpful to us audioholics would be most welcome. As for the 'installation' of the  ISOBAR 6 DBS which I got.....well..it's kind of complex   NOT!! Just like any other surge suppressor, like a powerstrip on steroids- forgot to mention the all steel case.  Just plug it in, and plug in your components. Reply With Quote « Previous Thread | Next Thread » Posting Permissions You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts   BB code is On Smilies are On [IMG] code is On [VIDEO] code is On HTML code is On Trackbacks are On Pingbacks are On Refbacks are On Forum Rules -- Audio 2013 -- Default Mobile Style Audioholics.com Privacy Statement Top All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:57 AM. Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.0 Copyright © 2013 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. vBulletin Services by vbskinstudio.com Copyright 2013 AUDIOHOLICS, LLC