You must get alot of this...

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sciknen

Audiophyte
Okay 1st post woot woot..

I'm moving into my 1st place. I have a bunch of my Dad's old records and some of my own.

My dads is almost all classics. Beatles/The doors/Black Sabbath things of that nature.
My records are mostly metal. Lamb of God..Hatebreed.. Type things

I have a yard sale special turntable. Cost me $5.00


I'm looking for probably bookshelf speakers a subwoofer, and a receiver. As the receiver goes I'd like it to have a CD player already just for ease of setup.

I figure bookshelves because from reading a few threads you can get more bang for your buck. I have a couple little speakers from my Ipod stereo thing that I will probably hook up.

This will be solely music no home theater. The room is about 12ft long x 8 ft wide by about 8 ft tall. I have a massive love sac in it. Just a place to chill out really.

Now the price tag.

All together looking to spend less than $500. I'd rather it to be $400, but if the $100 makes a big difference I'd splurge.


Thanks in advance for your time
Steve
MVHC
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
On a $400 to $500 budget, I'd skip the subwoofer and get a pair of Behringer 2031P's (with 8-3/4" woofers) for about $180 and Factory Reconditioned Onkyo TX-8555. That leaves enough money for a basic CD player.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/321817-REG/Behringer_B2031P_B2031P_2_Way_Passive.html

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTX8555/Onkyo/TX-8555-100-watts-2-channel-Stereo-Receiver/1.html

I think this set up will give you better overall sound quality than finding cheaper speakers or reciever and getting a sub.
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
hehehehehe i just knew the budget would be tiny ;):D

Anyways I agree with KEW that a sub is tough to fit into this tiny little budget...
So here's what I'll recommend

- Find a used integrated amp or stereo receiver locally, off craigslist or audiogon etc for around 100 dollars
- pair it with a B-Stock EMP e5ti pair of towers from their clearance section for 400. It still won't be full-range, but it should cover more musical bass than bookshelves can.
 
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sparky77

Full Audioholic
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=252-125
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-652
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-633
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=252-130

Grand total = $398 before shipping, the receiver and cd player are both sherwood and will function seamlessly from the same remote. It's the same setup I plan to get for my two daughters, minus the cd player because it'll be hooked up to the computer.
 
JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
I was with Sparky till we spent $150 on a CD-player. You can get an inexpensive BD player for that much. That setup will also force you to use the filters on the sub rather than crossover actively in the AVR.

I'd pick up a name-brand CD or DVD player (hard to go wrong with Sony) ideally from a pawn shop (I've seen older high-end DVD-players with good DACs go <$50). Id grab an older AVR receiver (anything after 5.1 came out, the usual names (Yamaha, Denon, Onkyo, Marantz, Integra, etc)... should cost <$50).

I'd pair a dayton subwoofer and a pair of Primus 362's (or, if you prefer Behringer 2030P aren't as pretty but sound better off-the-shelf).
 
jp_over

jp_over

Full Audioholic
another option

Based on much advice from this forum, I recently bought
2 x Behringer Truth B2030P $135
1 x yamaha receiver from ebay shipped $100 (no remote) RXv465

The sound is very clear and detailed.

I'm deployed so I used my laptop as a CD player/source. Just another way to save $100 if you have a laptop or even desktop. A 1/8 to RCA cable for about $6 makes the connection.

Joe
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
On a $400 to $500 budget, I'd skip the subwoofer and get a pair of Behringer 2031P's (with 8-3/4" woofers) for about $180 and Factory Reconditioned Onkyo TX-8555. That leaves enough money for a basic CD player.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/321817-REG/Behringer_B2031P_B2031P_2_Way_Passive.html

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTX8555/Onkyo/TX-8555-100-watts-2-channel-Stereo-Receiver/1.html

I think this set up will give you better overall sound quality than finding cheaper speakers or reciever and getting a sub.
I need to follow up on this and point out that the Behringer 2031P is a 4 Ohm speaker. The Onkyo above is rated for 4 ohms. I would be reluctant to pair these speakers with the Sherwood receiver. Maybe the Sherwood would work, but I haven't seen any mention of it and 4 ohms in the specifications, so it is best to assume not.

A few months ago, I bought both Infinity P362 and Behringer 2031P out of curiosity. Both impress me as amazing sound quality for less than $500 speakers, but, to my ear, the 2031P is the better speaker. The point is moot because P362's would blow your budget.

However, from reading the other postings, I'd like to elaborate on my recommendation.

Although I have never personally heard the Behringer 2030P (it is in the same series as the 2031P), because of all of the 2030P recommendations I see here, I have to believe it's sound quality is on par with the 2031P. The 2031P offers more bass from the larger woofer; however, in theory, the smaller woofer of the 2030P should offer more detail than the 2031P in the upper midrange. Having heard how much detail the 2031P offers over the highly recommended 3-way Infinity P362, I can't imagine the 2031P loses too much detail to the 2030P.

However, the 2030P's are 8 ohm speakers and can be comfortably driven by a receiver such as the Sherwood. Since you save about $130 by getting the 2030P's and the Sherwood Receiver, that is enough to buy the Dayton subwoofer. This would give you a 2.1 system with excellent sounding speakers, in budget. But, in my experience, in terms of absolute sound quality, subwoofers can do more harm than good.
My first sub was a SVS SB12-plus, which is a very good, musical sub. However, while it added impressive low frequency sound, I was completely disappointed with it because it blurred the detail and articulation of my speakers! I could tell this happened in the lowest frequencies. Replacing the SB12-Plus with a pair of Martin Logan Dynamos yielded a substantial improvement. Two subs better balances the room modes and the Dynamos roll off before they reach the lower frequencies. I guess both of these factors played a part. Later, when I moved the SB12-Plus to a different room and managed some EQ, I am finding it is a very good sub- but it was a one note sub in that first room without advanced EQ.

Don't get me wrong! A properly executed sub is a wonderful thing, but a properly executed sub requires a pretty good investment of time and money.

Here is a video on room modes:
http://www.audioholics.com/news/trade-show-coverage/video/thx-managing-bass-modes

And here is a calculator you can use to assess your room:
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/home-theater-design-construction/337-room-mode-calculator-converter.html

Ultimately, my original recommendation is still the solution I would choose as best SQ under $400, but that is one experience/opinion and there is a lot of knowledge on this board!

PS - You don't give a location, but if you are in close by, I'd be happy to lend you the Behringer 2031P's to try out and see what you think about using them without a sub.

Cheers!
 
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JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
I said primus 362. I* meant* to say Primus 162.
 
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sciknen

Audiophyte
I need to follow up on this and point out that the Behringer 2031P is a 4 Ohm speaker. The Onkyo above is rated for 4 ohms. I would be reluctant to pair these speakers with the Sherwood receiver. Maybe the Sherwood would work, but I haven't seen any mention of it and 4 ohms in the specifications, so it is best to assume not.

A few months ago, I bought both Infinity P362 and Behringer 2031P out of curiosity. Both impress me as amazing sound quality for less than $500 speakers, but, to my ear, the 2031P is the better speaker. The point is moot because P362's would blow your budget.

However, from reading the other postings, I'd like to elaborate on my recommendation.

Although I have never personally heard the Behringer 2030P (it is in the same series as the 2031P), because of all of the 2030P recommendations I see here, I have to believe it's sound quality is on par with the 2031P. The 2031P offers more bass from the larger woofer; however, in theory, the smaller woofer of the 2030P should offer more detail than the 2031P in the upper midrange. Having heard how much detail the 2031P offers over the highly recommended 3-way Infinity P362, I can't imagine the 2031P loses too much detail to the 2030P.

However, the 2030P's are 8 ohm speakers and can be comfortably driven by a receiver such as the Sherwood. Since you save about $130 by getting the 2030P's and the Sherwood Receiver, that is enough to buy the Dayton subwoofer. This would give you a 2.1 system with excellent sounding speakers, in budget. But, in my experience, in terms of absolute sound quality, subwoofers can do more harm than good.
My first sub was a SVS SB12-plus, which is a very good, musical sub. However, while it added impressive low frequency sound, I was completely disappointed with it because it blurred the detail and articulation of my speakers! I could tell this happened in the lowest frequencies. Replacing the SB12-Plus with a pair of Martin Logan Dynamos yielded a substantial improvement. Two subs better balances the room modes and the Dynamos roll off before they reach the lower frequencies. I guess both of these factors played a part. Later, when I moved the SB12-Plus to a different room and managed some EQ, I am finding it is a very good sub- but it was a one note sub in that first room without advanced EQ.

Don't get me wrong! A properly executed sub is a wonderful thing, but a properly executed sub requires a pretty good investment of time and money.

Ultimately, my original recommendation is still the solution I would choose as best SQ under $400, but that is one experience/opinion and there is a lot of knowledge on this board!

PS - You don't give a location, but if you are in close by, I'd be happy to lend you the Behringer 2031P's to try out and see what you think about using them without a sub.

Cheers!
Thanks so much everyone for all the ibfo

Thanks for the breakdown I'm definitely on a little over my head.

I'm from Boston that's an amazing offer as well. Is eBay safe with stereo equip? I would tjonk upu never really know of it worka or not. But Paypal is fantastic ror etting you yoir money back.
time to start looking some things. Thanks
 
jp_over

jp_over

Full Audioholic
e-bay

Thanks so much everyone for all the ibfo

Thanks for the breakdown I'm definitely on a little over my head.

I'm from Boston that's an amazing offer as well. Is eBay safe with stereo equip? I would tjonk upu never really know of it worka or not. But Paypal is fantastic ror etting you yoir money back.
time to start looking some things. Thanks
About ebay... For $100, I was willing to take a risk. However, I bought from a "top seller" who had good reviews and a "return it if it doesn't work" warranty. I also made sure the price was about average for that item. I'd be wary of prices that are crazy low.

Joe
 
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