Yamaha vs Maratz

[cbridge69]

I was looking into at Marantz DV6500 and was wondering how it stacks up against Yamaha. Would it be worth waiting for the DVD-S2500 to hit the market?

 

[jstarke2104]

Jojo

I would like to extend the question to Marantz versus Denon versus yamaha.
I am comparing the Marantz 8400 and Denon 3910 as well as the Marantz 6400 with Denon 2910.
What is the better player for the music and sound?

Marantz claims to be focussed on the audio side. Once you compare the weight, you are tempted to choose the Denon. What do experienced people say????

I am grateful for any response.

Thanks!
Joerg

 

[starfish]

If the shoe fits...

I was looking into at Marantz DV6500 and was wondering how it stacks up against Yamaha. Would it be worth waiting for the DVD-S2500 to hit the market?

What kind of receiver do you have? The Yamaha DVD-S2500 is made to stack up on top of the RX-V2500. If thats a need, it might be the end of the discussion.

 

[Nomo]

Given the size of the RX-V2500 you can practically park a small SUV on top of it. With the heat it needs to disapate through it's top ventilation however it's a bad idea to put anything directly on top of it.

I'm not trying to be a smarta$$ here. Just trying to prevent bad advise.

 

[starfish]

Yamaha DVD-S2500 DVD Player


With its combination of superior sound and picture quality and array of technical features, the DVD-S2500B in an impressive addition to Yamaha’s DVD player range.

At A Glance
The first thing you’ll notice about the DVD-S2500 is its sturdy build quality and sleek, minimalist looks. Weighing in at around twice as much as the entry DVD players, build quality was obviously a key criterion when designing this machine. As a higher quality DVD model, the DVD-S2500 is designed to sit on top of Yamaha A/V Receivers such as the RX-V2500 or RX-V1500. Its sleek aluminium front panel complements the Receiver to the extent that it resembles a combined unit.

NTSC/PAL Progressive Scan
The DVD-S2500 offers progressive scan for both NTSC (US) and PAL (Aust.) video formats. This ensures maximum resolution from DVD’s and a smoother, more film-like image when viewed with a compatible display. The 216 MHz, 12-bit video DAC’s allow the Yamaha to have superior blacks and colour definition than ‘cheaper’ alternatives.

Disc Compatibility
One of the highlights of the DVD-S2500 is the inclusion of high quality playback of two new audio formats, DVD-Audio and SACD. Both offer superior sound quality over a standard DVD or CD, while capable of utilizing all 5.1 channels in a recording. Having both formats included, ensures compatibility regardless of which format dominates in future.

In addition to DVD-Audio and SACD, the DVD-S2500 plays back most optical discs formats on the market, including the latest version of MP3 CDs (multi-session), VCD discs, both formats of recordable DVD’s and of course, Audio CD’s, including copies.

The Latest Digital Outputs
The latest buzz word in the Audio/Visual scene is HDMI. HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface) is currently used to provide a digital image to the latest projectors and other high quality displays. Since there is no digital to analogue conversion, signal integrity is preserved, allowing a superior image. Other information, such as picture settings or aspect control can be sent via this one cable as well. Of course, when we start to see AV receivers start supporting this format, this one cable can carry digital audio formats as well. Naturally, the DVD-S2500 includes this feature, and Yamaha and other A/V receivers will start to support this feature sometime in 2005.

As well as HDMI, the DVD-S2500 also supports i.Link (IEEE1394). This provides a digital connection for DVD-Audio, SACD and other high quality audio sources. This allows the use of one digital cable, instead of the usual six analogue cables required.

Main Specifications:
Disc Compatibility: SA-CD, DVD-Audio, DVD-Video, VCD, SVCD, Audio CD, MP3, DVD+RW/+R, DVD-RW/-R, CD-R/RW
VIDEO PERFORMANCE: Video D/A Converter 216MHz/12-bit
AUDIO PERFORMANCE: Audio D/A Converter 192kHz/24-bit
Signal-to-Noise Ratio: 115 dB
Frequency Response:
CD: 2—20kHz
DVD: 48kHz Sampling: 2—22kHz
DVD: 96kHz Sampling: 2—44kHz
Dynamic Range: SACD: 107 dB / DVD: 103 dB
Harmonic Distortion + Noise at 1kHz: 0.0015%
Dimensions: (W x H x D) 435 x 100 x 314 mm
Weight: 5.6 kg
Warranty: 2-Years

 

[MDS]

Was that quote from a press release?

That is idiotic advice. Receivers have ventilation holes on the top and nothing should EVER be placed on top of them, unless of course you don't mind burning out the receiver or risking a fire. You could place the receiver on top of the dvd player, but not the other way around.

I would bet you that the manual for the receiver will clearly say that nothing should be placed on top of it. Every manual for every receiver I have ever owned cautions against placing anything on top that would block the ventilation holes.

 

[Nomo]

cbridge,
The S2500 is pretty much a cutting edge player. But that edge is about to move a bit further out. With the new technology coming out this year, most likely trickling down to affordability next year, this may not be an ideal time to invest a fortune into DVD players.
If you have a player that is bearable for a while can you hold out on the investment?
If not I suggest you not break the bank at this point in time.

That's simply my opinion. I plan to stick with my Toshiba SD-4700 until the dust clears.

 

[Nomo]

I stopped at BB tonight for some computer software. As usual I wandered past the audio stuff. To my amazement on one of their end displays was a DVD-C750 player perched atop a HTR-5790 reciever. I'll admit it looked like it was meant to be there, looked very nice, but the problem was it left less than 3/8" of ventilation space for the 5790 to breathe! I'm not sure where starfish's above quote originally came from but I'm inclined to believe that Yamaha is designing these components to be used in exactly this way. That to me, if this is the case, is irresponsible. Perhaps I'm jumping to conclusions but I expected more from what I consider to be a high quality company.

I realize this response would be better off in the steam vent but I thought I'd keep some continuity going.

 

[schnel]

On the subject of putting a dvd player or similar item on top of a hot receiver. A solution I once used was to stack 6 or 7 4"x4" ceramic floor tiles on the four corners of the receiver and then placed the dvd player on top of that. Provided plenty of ventilation for the receiver and let me make use of some of the height I had. It actually didn't look terrible either. Of course, if you're up to it, you could always build a wooden "hutch" that was supported on either side of the receiver and was high enough to hold a dvd player without stifling the receiver's ventilation.

 

[Chip_3]

Ventillation above is best

If any of you have time read a amp manual, I guarantee it will require top space ventillation, I have had many amps in my day and learned this lesson over 40 years ago after burning out a few good amps, these days most amps require 12" of space above for ventillation throughput, the Yamaha RX-V2500 states in the manual to have a inbuilt fan that can either come on when required or can be programmed to be on continuously, Personally I have about 4" above my amp in a cabinet with glass doors and a open back, but my trick is that I use a Targus Notebook chill Mat double sided taped to the underside top of my cabinet lid, "Ues 1/2" of space and send the hot air to the back uotlet of the cabinet and noisless" when the amp power is turned on the 2 fans are activated and dispell the hot flow air from the amp out the back of the cabinet. I have used this setup with a Mcintosh amp and also my new Yamaha amp with no problems even through long periods of partying, i did it originally because guests would inadvertantly close the glass doors.