yeah, plus the newer ones don't have any s video inputs, and they only upconvert to HDMI, not to component, or obviously S-video since there aren't any, but it does say upscaling to 1080p which the 663 doesn't do. I also noticed the remote is labeled different, only has buttons for the inputs, they aren't labeled DVD, CBL/SAT, etc... and the display looks different aside from the differnet color scheme. I am anxious for these to hit the store shelves so I can have a closer look at them.