Yamaha RX-V2700 > erratic playlists

[jagdriver]

I have a number of WPL playlists on my media server, all residing in the \Shared Document\Shared Music folder.

Each WPL began life as a flatfile M3U, was brought into Windows Media Player 11, then saved from there as a WPL. Other than the filename and individual track pointers, there is no discernable XML formatting difference between the files, near as I can tell by examining each in WordPad.

The problem is, the Yamaha recognizes all of the playlists, but only displays and plays the content of two of the WPLs. When using the Yamaha's menu to drill down into the WPLs, the same two files are the only ones that display the individual tracks; all the others display nothing.

I've also tried M3Us, with the same result. Either something is flaky on the Yamaha side, or on the MS WMP side...I can't begin to tell which.

ALSO: If anyone from Yamaha sees this post, please note that the remote control unit has a SEVERE lag time between pressing a button and action taking place. Often I have to repeat the button sequence twice, sometimes more, before the 2700 responds. AND the controller is almost completely useless when managing a large digital music collection; the remote being DESPARATELY in need of a responsive scroll wheel. What I'd like to see is a controller redesign for the next network receiver iteration, with the controller being backward-compatible with the 2700 and available for separate purchase.

 

[MDS]

Can you post the contents of the two XML files? They may look near identical but are not if the namespaces are different. I'm just curious as to what they look like.

I think it may be about time for you to throw in the towel on this feature. It clearly does not work reliably and it sounds like it has all the same problems as Onkyo's attempt at the same feature a few years ago.

 

[jagdriver]

Can you post the contents of the two XML files? They may look near identical but are not if the namespaces are different. I'm just curious as to what they look like.

I think it may be about time for you to throw in the towel on this feature. It clearly does not work reliably and it sounds like it has all the same problems as Onkyo's attempt at the same feature a few years ago.

I've posted two at www.ca-dreaming.com/Playlists. OLDIES (WPL).WPL and OLDIES (M3U).M3U work consistently well on the Yamaha.

The receiver sees ALL THAT JAZZ (WPL).WPL and ALL THAT JAZZ (M3U).M3U, but displays 0 contents when you drill down into either.

 

[MDS]

Well it must not be a problem with .wpl vs .m3u if the Oldies playlists both work. The one thing I did notice though is that the Oldies playlist has 856 entries whereas All That Jazz has 2015.

If the Yamaha actually reads the entire playlist and builds its own structure to keep track of the location of each track, it could just be a memory limitation of the receiver (and a bug where it shows none of them if it can't load them all).

Do the receiver docs mention any limitations on playlist size?

 

[jagdriver]

Well it must not be a problem with .wpl vs .m3u if the Oldies playlists both work. The one thing I did notice though is that the Oldies playlist has 856 entries whereas All That Jazz has 2015.

Do the receiver docs mention any limitations on playlist size?

The docs are sketchy at best and their online FAQ is just as bad. And Yamaha's tech support is outright deplorable in that it takes days for a reply...if I even get one (usually not).

Interestingly, my Blues WPL has 985 entries, while my Fun Time WPL has a mere 378. While both can be seen by the Yamaha, it shows a 0 for both upon drilling down.