Yamaha RX-V2600 External Amp Connection - No Signal to Front Speakers

Miken101

Miken101

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I recently bought a 2 channel amp and 4 ohm main speakers. I connected the FL and FR Pre outs to the amp and connected the speakers to the amp. I don't get a signal to my front speaker (new ones).

I've been told it's very simple and to just make the connections and it should work. I've looked into the RX-V2600 manual and it outlines how to connect the pre-outs to the amp etc.

Has anyone had experience with adding an external amp to an RX-V2600? Is there an internal amp setting that I'm missing. Everyone I've talked to said that it should just work.

Mike
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Pre-outs are usually live. What amp? Are you using the front pre-outs or the rear? Any of the conditions on page 28 of your manual in effect?
 
everettT

everettT

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Double check that you didn't accidentally plug them into the multichannel inputs , it's been done before
 
Miken101

Miken101

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Pre-outs are usually live. What amp? Are you using the front pre-outs or the rear? Any of the conditions on page 28 of your manual in effect?
Hi. The amp is Axiom Audio ADA 1250. Using the Front pre outs. Checked and re checked. I talked to Yamaha support and he said the same thing you did. They are live and should just work. Thanks.
 
Miken101

Miken101

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Double check that you didn't accidentally plug them into the multichannel inputs , it's been done before
Hey. Yes I checked a few times. Was on the phone with Yamaha support and he also asked me that. He did ask me to check if there's signal coming out of the amp. I plugged rca cables into the amp with a 3.5mm jack into my phone and, according to the Yamaha guy, I should get signal coming through the amp. And there wasn't any. So I'm going to contact the amp manufacturer.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll let you know what happens.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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Hey. Yes I checked a few times. Was on the phone with Yamaha support and he also asked me that. He did ask me to check if there's signal coming out of the amp. I plugged rca cables into the amp with a 3.5mm jack into my phone and, according to the Yamaha guy, I should get signal coming through the amp. And there wasn't any. So I'm going to contact the amp manufacturer.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll let you know what happens.
In that case your amp is a dud and needs replacement.

I note that those Axiom amps are very easily destroyed. I note Axiom say that due to the very high switching frequency it is not possible to protect them. I also note that they are blown up by running them not connected to a speaker which is unusual for a solid state amp, but the usual situation with a tube amp. Any short of a speaker lead causes instant disaster on those amps. Gene blew up two of them during evaluation.

So either that amp came DOA or you had a small error (Whisker) in a speaker wire and have already blown it up.

I would not be rushing to be in line for one of those amps I can tell you that.

If Axiom do agree to replace it, I would check all connections for adequacy and shorts before powering it up.
 
Miken101

Miken101

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In that case your amp is a dud and needs replacement.

I note that those Axiom amps are very easily destroyed. I note Axiom say that due to the very high switching frequency it is not possible to protect them. I also note that they are blown up by running them not connected to a speaker which is unusual for a solid state amp, but the usual situation with a tube amp. Any short of a speaker lead causes instant disaster on those amps. Gene blew up two of them during evaluation.

So either that amp came DOA or you had a small error (Whisker) in a speaker wire and have already blown it up.

I would not be rushing to be in line for one of those amps I can tell you that.

If Axiom do agree to replace it, I would check all connections for adequacy and shorts before powering it up.
Thanks for that. Also. I assumed that the switch at the back of the amp was off. When I plugged it in I heard a POP. So this is maybe where the problem is. Thanks again.

Mike
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Thanks for that. Also. I assumed that the switch at the back of the amp was off. When I plugged it in I heard a POP. So this is maybe where the problem is. Thanks again.

Mike
Why did you not come clean about the pop at the beginning? Pops are always a bad and grave omen. I strongly suspect you have an error in at least one speaker wire.

Be prepared for Axiom to deny warranty service.
 
Miken101

Miken101

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Why did you not come clean about the pop at the beginning? Pops are always a bad and grave omen. I strongly suspect you have an error in at least one speaker wire.

Be prepared for Axiom to deny warranty service.
When I spoke to Axiom about it they said that there's enough protection built in that it wouldn't be an issue. Plus they said that if when the Amp is powered up: Button in the back, then front switch....then a clicking should with all LEDs Blue...it means it's fine and working.

My reason for posting here is to find out if someone possibly had do do some configuration with the Yamaha AV rec... I wasn't holding that info back for any reason.

Mike
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
When I spoke to Axiom about it they said that there's enough protection built in that it wouldn't be an issue. Plus they said that if when the Amp is powered up: Button in the back, then front switch....then a clicking should with all LEDs Blue...it means it's fine and working.

My reason for posting here is to find out if someone possibly had do do some configuration with the Yamaha AV rec... I wasn't holding that info back for any reason.

Mike
What you were told is at variance with what Axiom told Gene when evaluating one of those Axiom Class D amps. He blew up two in the evaluation and one failure was incendiary. According to Gene they told him they could not provide protection due to the very high frequencies in the power supply.

I'm sorry but this is where the customer has to do due diligence to avoid a bad purchase.

Axiom is a speaker company and a relatively small one. Their speakers are not held in high regard to state it mildly.

So this company decides to design and produce very difficult to design class D amps. Not only that they make it run at a higher frequency than anything else. It is hardly surprising if the end result is problematic.

Gene found that these amps blow up when not connected to a load and as soon as there is even a brief short in a speaker lead. This is not acceptable performance.

I agree that the user manual makes no reference to these amps vulnerabilities. Not only should they disclose this, unless there has been a reliable revision, but there should probably also be some sort of warning to the effect that under certain circumstances this unit can become an incendiary device. After purchase the owner is advised to contact his insurance agent, as increased rates for home owner hazard insurance may apply.

As you might gather this company is well up my list of non recommended companies.
 
Miken101

Miken101

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What you were told is at variance with what Axiom told Gene when evaluating one of those Axiom Class D amps. He blew up two in the evaluation and one failure was incendiary. According to Gene they told him they could not provide protection due to the very high frequencies in the power supply.

I'm sorry but this is where the customer has to do due diligence to avoid a bad purchase.

Axiom is a speaker company and a relatively small one. Their speakers are not held in high regard to state it mildly.

So this company decides to design and produce very difficult to design class D amps. Not only that they make it run at a higher frequency than anything else. It is hardly surprising if the end result is problematic.

Gene found that these amps blow up when not connected to a load and as soon as there is even a brief short in a speaker lead. This is not acceptable performance.

I agree that the user manual makes no reference to these amps vulnerabilities. Not only should they disclose this, unless there has been a reliable revision, but there should probably also be some sort of warning to the effect that under certain circumstances this unit can become an incendiary device. After purchase the owner is advised to contact his insurance agent, as increased rates for home owner hazard insurance may apply.

As you might gather this company is well up my list of non recommended companies.
Understood. Thank you for your input and advise. I will contact them this afternoon and see how this can be resolved. If it can't I'm sending everything back.

Mike
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Understood. Thank you for your input and advise. I will contact them this afternoon and see how this can be resolved. If it can't I'm sending everything back.

Mike
I think you have a handle on this now. Good luck and do let us know how you get on. It will be interesting to see if they take it back for a full refund since it now does not work. I hope it does not get sticky for you. My best advice is to dump it back on them and consider something else like Outlaw or ATI.
 

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