Ok, I have done the pre-requisite forum searching before posting

I found this old post:
forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26151&highlight=rx-v1400+zone *edit - wont let me post a link in my first post.. I removed the http
and my issue is similar... Here is my situation.
As mentioned, amp is Yamaha RX-V1400
Front speakers A left and right connected
Surround speakers A left and right connected
Surround back speakers A left and right connected
Center connected
Presence/Zone 2 speakers left and right connected
So here is the issue.. My zone 2 speakers are outdoor speakers on the covered porch.. What I am shooting for is to have the outdoor speakers assigned to zone 2 not presence so I have been through the manual setup and set presence to none.. Then used the remote to turn on zone 2, selected the correct input for my source and ...... nada.. Now from the post I mentioned above it seems that my digital source might be the problem, however..
If I assign the outside speakers as presence speakers, then on any program with enhanced capabilities the audio is indeed pushed to the outside speakers though the volume is directly proportional to the main amp volume..
So am I basically screwed for a true zone 2 configuration using the zone 2amp and seperate volume capability unless I go analog only for the source?? This can't be can it??? Can someone out there please help a newb here???
Thanks..