yamaha rx a2030 or emotiva umc 200 and xpa-5

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jkgsxr

Junior Audioholic
Like the title says what would be the advantage/disadvantages of going with the rx a2030 vs the emotiva umc 200, xpa 5 combo. Everyone's thoughts appreciated.
 
ImcLoud

ImcLoud

Audioholic Ninja
I would go with the umc200 xpa5 combo, lol obviously.. I like my little umc processor it does everything I want it to do, works with out a hiccup and the amp sound great, it all looks really good in my rack and I never have to worry about getting speakers that are hard to run, if I ever want to upgrade Im not tossing my entire system, I can keep my amp and just get a new Pro when they come out with the next HDMI 10.400 cable or Dolby 44X11-9'er, ect... Also I had some bad luck with AVRs, pushing on them gets them hot and most wont like going sub 6ohm... Kind of like an eggs all in one basket feeling when they die on you... Another thing to think about is resale value, if you bought a $1500 AVR today {2013 model} next year when everyone wants 2014's its going to be on sale at newegg or a4l for 60% off and your resale value is trashed, then never mind in 5 years when you want to upgrade, you may as well give it away... With an amplifier, you look on ebay and Emotiva amps from 4 years ago are sellig for what they paid for them {mainly because they went up in price} but it follows suit, I can sell my old xpa5 for $700-800 and thats about what I paid....

So, keep all that in mind, I have used a lot of avrs and processors, I like the umc200, its zone 2 is really easy to use, the room software was simple and did a good job, it programmed rite up with my all in one remote, I can hook all my components to it {keep in mind no analog, but who has that anymore}... And the amplifier has been a champ, that thing is on 15 hours a day in the summer when the kids are home and I smash it when watching movies, and it never even gets warm..

The last thing I will offer is customer support, emotiva answers the phone, try calling onkyo and talking to the same person twice 3 days apart from phone calls, I have Dans number at emo and can call him and talk about a problem if I wanted to, not that I ever had to... I met him and his entire family, I have a ton of their gear and I feel secure buying more.....

AVR's are coming to a point where they are getting price attractive though, recently you could get ioneer 1222k for under $500, and elite sc63 for under $700, denon 3313s and 12s for around 5-600$, marantz 7005's for 70% off msrp, ect...them are attractive prices and cant be ignored, especially since you can get an avr like them with preouts and add an emotiva xpa3 just for your fronts {since honestly 400watts for your surrounds is a huge waste, I can power surrounds with 50w each and keep up with a 600w front stage, they don't get much material and they are normally 2 feet from the listening position...

But anyway good luck, and let us know what you decide...
 
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JonnyFive23517

Audioholic
I'd always vote for separates. In the future you can upgrade the pre-processor and stick with the XPA-5 for many, many years. Oh, and wait until Emo's holiday sale if you want to save a couple hundred :)
 
tmurnin

tmurnin

Full Audioholic
At last check, the UMC is showing as unavailable on Emotiva's website. I haven't called but does anyone know if they're just way back ordered or if the product is being discontinued?
 
ImcLoud

ImcLoud

Audioholic Ninja
I think this weekend was emofest plus they have the 10% off, so they are most likely sold out...
 
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sharkman

Full Audioholic
Is there a third option? I'm a fan of Audyssey room correction and think one should try for separates. So I'd opt for a Denon, probably the 3313 and the XPA-5, though I have the Outlaw 7125 and it's pretty solid. The UMC is too limited and the room correction isn't up to snuff. Just a thought.
 
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jkgsxr

Junior Audioholic
Is there a third option? I'm a fan of Audyssey room correction and think one should try for separates. So I'd opt for a Denon, probably the 3313 and the XPA-5, though I have the Outlaw 7125 and it's pretty solid. The UMC is too limited and the room correction isn't up to snuff. Just a thought.
Is the outlaw 975 worth looking at compared to the umc 200 or apples to apples?
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
I would make sure first to invest 80% of total budget in speakers first.
Electronics are secondary. A System with 10k speakers and $500 in electronics will sounds better any day than $500 in speakers and 10k in electronics.

Just my 2c
 
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