Xtz edge A2-300 and Sonus faber venere 3.0

[OrdinaryClown]

I have this setup now. The speakers are 6ohm, i quess the xtz delivers around 175w to my speakers in 6ohm. Do you guys think its worth buying another XTZ so i can mono bi amping my veneres?

 

[lovinthehd]

Personally I think passive bi-amping is a waste of time and money and it sounds like you have sufficient power now (or you might explain why you think you don't). You might peruse this article https://www.audioholics.com/frequent-questions/the-difference-between-biamping-vs-biwiring.

 

[OrdinaryClown]

Personally I think passive bi-amping is a waste of time and money and it sounds like you have sufficient power now (or you might explain why you think you don't). You might peruse this article https://www.audioholics.com/frequent-questions/the-difference-between-biamping-vs-biwiring.

Hi
Thnx for replying sow fast.
i dont know about power is too low, i venere 3.0 specs they recommend 50-300 Watts.
i just wonder If i can get even better sound if i Use 2 xtz edge in mono to get 2 X 175 for one speaker instead of ”only” 175watts.
dont get me wrong, i love the sound. Just wonder If i can get better

 

[lovinthehd]

Why do you think the extra power will translate to better sound? Do you need the power? That is, are you listening at such levels where you are maxing out the capabilities of your amp? Speaker wattage ratings are among the least useful specs of a speaker, and doesn't particularly relate to sound quality. Unless you're running into clipping/distortion in your normal use, the max wattage info is more a warning of damage can happen if you exceed the recommendation....is that a recommendation of continuous/program power or peak power (I just see without clipping mentioned)? You might use an spl calculator like this to estimate your power needs https://www.audioholics.com/frequent-questions/the-difference-between-biamping-vs-biwiring

 

[ryanosaur]

Each section will still see 175 watts. This is not an additive process. Moreover, unless they are horribly inefficient Mids and Tweets, they won't need (or be able to handle) anywhere near that much available power.
No. Buy-Amping, just like Buy-Wiring, is pretty much considered to be a waste and completely unnecessary.

One Boutique Speaker designer I have discussed this with only puts a second pair of binding posts on his speakers to help preserve their resell value for his clients. Not having them apparently knocks a stack or two off their value! But he never recommends his clients actually use them, though he did say that you can bi-wire them if you really want to.

*shrugs

 

[OrdinaryClown]

Why do you think the extra power will translate to better sound? Do you need the power? That is, are you listening at such levels where you are maxing out the capabilities of your amp? Speaker wattage ratings are among the least useful specs of a speaker, and doesn't particularly relate to sound quality. Unless you're running into clipping/distortion in your normal use, the max wattage info is more a warning of damage can happen if you exceed the recommendation....is that a recommendation of continuous/program power or peak power (I just see without clipping mentioned)? You might use an spl calculator like this to estimate your power needs https://www.audioholics.com/frequent-questions/the-difference-between-biamping-vs-biwiring

no im not listening at very high volumes, i have just Google and found some people saying if i put more power to the bas and the treble i can get clearer more powerfull sound. I just asked here becouse i have never tried or not really sure that this with bi amp was the case.
Im not saying more power better sound. Just asking becouse i dont know.
thnx for replay!

 

[ryanosaur]

I was in the same boat. I was absolutely convinced by everything I read online that Passive BiAmping was like cracking the code!
I slowed down and paid attention to the reasons why it’s not, rather than the claims people were making about the magical results they had.
In the end, to me, it didn’t make sense that (in this instance) there was any magic involved. Not that a good pair of Speakers with a quality Amp could deliver on by themselves. Offload the bottom end to a quality Sub, and you’ve got everything you need! (Including the frequency range to listen to big @$$ pipe organs )

For Sound Quality, just make certain your gear is set up well, especially placement of your speakers and LP in the room. This has almost as much payout as having a very good set of Speakers! But the Speaker-Room interaction can kill even the best sounding gear if you get it wrong.

 

[lovinthehd]

no im not listening at very high volumes, i have just Google and found some people saying if i put more power to the bas and the treble i can get clearer more powerfull sound. I just asked here becouse i have never tried or not really sure that this with bi amp was the case.
Im not saying more power better sound. Just asking becouse i dont know.
thnx for replay!

I'd bet you're just fine without the extra amp. As Ryan mentions, the setup/room is something to look into as that has a great influence on your sound. If you really think you might benefit from more power simply get a more capable amp, but run the numbers through that spl calculator first. OTOH if you do use equalization on your speakers, and using boosting of frequencies, that does tax the amp more.

 

[OrdinaryClown]

I was in the same boat. I was absolutely convinced by everything I read online that Passive BiAmping was like cracking the code!
I slowed down and paid attention to the reasons why it’s not, rather than the claims people were making about the magical results they had.
In the end, to me, it didn’t make sense that (in this instance) there was any magic involved. Not that a good pair of Speakers with a quality Amp could deliver on by themselves. Offload the bottom end to a quality Sub, and you’ve got everything you need! (Including the frequency range to listen to big @$$ pipe organs )

For Sound Quality, just make certain your gear is set up well, especially placement of your speakers and LP in the room. This has almost as much payout as having a very good set of Speakers! But the Speaker-Room interaction can kill even the best sounding gear if you get it wrong.

 

[OrdinaryClown]

I'd bet you're just fine without the extra amp. As Ryan mentions, the setup/room is something to look into as that has a great influence on your sound. If you really think you might benefit from more power simply get a more capable amp, but run the numbers through that spl calculator first. OTOH if you do use equalization on your speakers, and using boosting of frequencies, that does tax the amp more.

 

[lovinthehd]

Oops, thought the spl calculator had already been linked. http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html

Also, whatever you're doing in quoting the posts....it's not working.

 

[OrdinaryClown]

I'd bet you're just fine without the extra amp. As Ryan mentions, the setup/room is something to look into as that has a great influence on your sound. If you really think you might benefit from more power simply get a more capable amp, but run the numbers through that spl calculator first. OTOH if you do use equalization on your speakers, and using boosting of frequencies, that does tax the amp more.

tried the spl cal