Would buying the cheapest receiver and getting the best amp be more wise?

[carlobenavidesahavia]

I was thinking of doing 7.2.4 in a dedicated rooms this will be my second receiver coming from a Pioneer Elite Sc-37 and it used to be the top of the line receiver. Now it's trash. Would getting the cheapest receiver that can process 11.2 channels with preamp outs plus let's say a Monolith 3x200 11 channel amp be more future proof since the receiver will be trash again in 5 years. Why aren't companies coming out with affordable processor options without amplification. Well I guess it's a business after all. But what a waste of components when there is always a new audio surround technology every 3-5 years....

P.S. Which receivers would you recommend plus amp combos for 7.1.4 don't need 2 subs since I purchased a minidsp hd

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[Grandzoltar]

There is nothing wrong with using a receiver as a pre/pro. I know one would think that an offering without built in amplification would be cheaper but that’s not the case. When selecting a receiver I would make sure that the pre out voltage is sufficient to drive your amplifier to rated capacity. That it includes all latest codecs and will drive the 11.2 speakers you plan on using. One other ingredient is the type of dac. Now some people say that it doesn’t matter but me personally I would want one that measures the best regardless of where the audibility of distortion first starts. Most pre/pro’s these days are upgrade able. The Monoprice htp 16 is your best bet for a pre/pro cost wise. As far as receivers use that information up top as guidelines to suit your needs. Denon, Marantz, Yamaha.

 

[Verdinut]

Why aren't companies coming out with affordable processor options without amplification.

They are called preamp-processors and they have been on the market for a few decades. They are expensive because there is not much demand and production as compared with AVRs. The most economical way to solve the situation is to get a reasonably priced receiver and use it as a preamp-pro.

An AVR from reputable brands such as Denon, Marantz or Yamaha will do the job. Just make sure that it has the audio pre-outs to enable you to connect external amps.

 

[carlobenavidesahavia]

They are called preamp-processors and they have been on the market for a few decades. They are expensive because there is not much demand and production as compared with AVRs. The most economical way to solve the situation is to get a reasonably priced receiver and use it as a preamp-pro.

An AVR from reputable brands such as Denon, Marantz or Yamaha will do the job. Just make sure that it has the audio pre-outs to enable you to connect external amps.

Thanks... it's just illogical that a receiver that does more stuff than a preamp pro is less expensive. I guess it is because they want people to constantly buy somethung every 3 years. Probably because of dolby dts and aura. If you think about it a computer can probably process different surround formats. Just need new codecs but they made a system that makes you waste an otherwise good amp because the tech part is obsolete.

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[carlobenavidesahavia]

I wish some computer nerds crack the dolby codecs. Rather than Playstation and some games

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[Verdinut]

Thanks... it's just illogical that a receiver that does more stuff than a preamp pro is less expensive. I guess it is because they want people to constantly buy somethung every 3 years. Probably because of dolby dts and aura. If you think about it a computer can probably process different surround formats. Just need new codecs but they made a system that makes you waste an otherwise good amp because the tech part is obsolete.

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The AVRs with included power amps, bells and whistles are less expensive than pre-pros because of economy of scale occurring with huge productions.

 

[2channel lover]

I was thinking of doing 7.2.4 in a dedicated rooms this will be my second receiver coming from a Pioneer Elite Sc-37 and it used to be the top of the line receiver. Now it's trash. Would getting the cheapest receiver that can process 11.2 channels with preamp outs plus let's say a Monolith 3x200 11 channel amp be more future proof since the receiver will be trash again in 5 years. Why aren't companies coming out with affordable processor options without amplification. Well I guess it's a business after all. But what a waste of components when there is always a new audio surround technology every 3-5 years....

P.S. Which receivers would you recommend plus amp combos for 7.1.4 don't need 2 subs since I purchased a minidsp hd

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13 channels?

True, what changes is mostly on the processing side. But it's still more cost effective to buy an AVR vs separates.

 

[lovinthehd]

FWIW just because an avr advertises ".2" doesn't mean it has two separately adjustable sub channels, often it simply means two identical pre-outs. Some avrs do have separately adjustable subs (for level and delay), like the AudysseyXT32 equipped units from Denon and Marantz for example. Having a minidsp would limit the useful ness of having that second output, but perhaps it could still be useful for something like tactile transducers....

 

[carlobenavidesahavia]

FWIW just because an avr advertises ".2" doesn't mean it has two separately adjustable sub channels, often it simply means two identical pre-outs. Some avrs do have separately adjustable subs (for level and delay), like the AudysseyXT32 equipped units from Denon and Marantz for example. Having a minidsp would limit the useful ness of having that second output, but perhaps it could still be useful for something like tactile transducers....

Oh can't I put the tactile transducers and basshakers on the minidsp on a seperate channel?

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[carlobenavidesahavia]

FWIW just because an avr advertises ".2" doesn't mean it has two separately adjustable sub channels, often it simply means two identical pre-outs. Some avrs do have separately adjustable subs (for level and delay), like the AudysseyXT32 equipped units from Denon and Marantz for example. Having a minidsp would limit the useful ness of having that second output, but perhaps it could still be useful for something like tactile transducers....

Or just use a splitter?

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[Pogre]

No.

 

[lovinthehd]

Or just use a splitter?

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I meant more for the type that are separately adjustable, but you can always use a splitter on a sub pre-out.

 

[carlobenavidesahavia]

Another question bro would getting a 3x200watt external amplifier for LCR let my receiver give more watts to the surrounds and atmos?

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[everettT]

I wish some computer nerds crack the dolby codecs. Rather than Playstation and some games

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What do you propose they crack lol?

 

[Leemix]

Another question bro would getting a 3x200watt external amplifier for LCR let my receiver give more watts to the surrounds and atmos?

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Yes there would be fewer active amp sections sharing the powersupply.