wiring my new house

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crash480

Audiophyte
I'm sure I am not the only one that has spent hours reading millions of lines of forums, trying to figure out what to do when it comes to wiring a new home. Like most, I am still scratching my head. This is what I have planned for so far.

Distributed Audio
14/4 and Cat5e(maybe cresnet too) running to control points, then a pair of 14/2 running to speakers. This will allow me to use one volume controls until I can find some extra $$$ for the system.

2 Cat5e 350mhz, 2 quad shield RG6 running to almost every room.
1 or 2 cat5e, running to where I want a phone jack(most cases opposite side of the room as the RG6/Cat5e.
2 RG6 running up to the attic
conduit running from basement to attic.

I have a standard 5.1 surround sound system now, which I will be using in the family room.

I am planning on running everything down to a location in the basement.

If I want to use my current receiver from my family room with impedance switch and volume controls, I don't want to have to go downstairs to change sources etc.

Planning on hanging a plasma/LCD on the wall in the future, and not want DVD/cable box in the way.

What type of cable do I use and where do I run it.

Sorry about running on a little, thank you to all that spent the time to read all the way down the bottom.

Thanks
Chris
 
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Cavediver

Audioholic
You've pretty much got it figured out. In the big picture of things, wire is pretty cheap. Just think of what you want in each room and where you want it. Then run the wires all back to a central location. Don't forget about running wires for an intercom system or possibly another RG6 for CCTV. Also, make sure you mark (identify) each wire on both ends. I ended up with a few Cat 5e wires at wall plates that I could not find in any of the panels. Also, don't forget whole house surge protection. I put in a Square D whole house surge protector that protects electrical, phone and cable.

Also, depending on the distances, you might want to consider 12/2 speaker wire for your main theater room. Home Depo 12/2 in wall speaker wire is pretty good stuff. There are a couple of good books on structured wiring and several websites devoted to the subject.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
I'm sure I am not the only one that has spent hours reading millions of lines of forums, trying to figure out what to do when it comes to wiring a new home. Like most, I am still scratching my head. This is what I have planned for so far.

Distributed Audio
14/4 and Cat5e(maybe cresnet too) running to control points, then a pair of 14/2 running to speakers. This will allow me to use one volume controls until I can find some extra $$$ for the system.

2 Cat5e 350mhz, 2 quad shield RG6 running to almost every room.
1 or 2 cat5e, running to where I want a phone jack(most cases opposite side of the room as the RG6/Cat5e.
2 RG6 running up to the attic
conduit running from basement to attic.

I have a standard 5.1 surround sound system now, which I will be using in the family room.

I am planning on running everything down to a location in the basement.

If I want to use my current receiver from my family room with impedance switch and volume controls, I don't want to have to go downstairs to change sources etc.

Planning on hanging a plasma/LCD on the wall in the future, and not want DVD/cable box in the way.

What type of cable do I use and where do I run it.

Sorry about running on a little, thank you to all that spent the time to read all the way down the bottom.

Thanks
Chris
Just make sure you run everything in conduit while you have the chance. Remember today's systems will be old news tomorrow.

Actually you can make a case for running every wire in the house in conduit.
I'm firmly of the belief we will move to a hydrogen based economy as fossil fuels become more scarce. That will require, I think, a radical re engineering of every home, and really pulling them apart.

The other thing is, that in all homes non linear loads continue to increase dramatically. Tell your electrician to double the capacity of your neutral lines, as these now significant nonlinear loads really stress a homes neutral lines.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
There's no need to run cabling in conduit unless you just want to take up space within conduit. What you want is to run conduit - and make sure it is no less than 1" conduit, preferably 1.5 to 2 inches.

Here's the deal - in rooms where you are thinking of a flat panel, run conduit up or down those walls. From an attic, it's no fun at all trying to find studs to run wires down in blown insulation. Likewise, outside walls which may be ideal for a plasma will likely have insulation in them, and maybe even fire breaks. So, just running 5 or 10 feet of conduit from those tough access areas, to unfinished spaces can save you hours of time and headaches.

I am a HUGE fan of motorized blinds - especially blackout blinds. Hunter Douglas makes some that are decent enough, and you can include them with control in a whole house system if you run cat-5 to your windows. Probably not ALL the windows, just a few, like the family room and the master bedroom. If you're doing this pulling yourself though, I would add all the bedrooms. I'm really wishing I had motorized blinds in my kids rooms so it was more consistent to get some sunlight in their rooms.

Cresnet cabling is not necessary. Just run 2 pieces of cat-5. I currently use either cat-5 or 22/12 cabling within my home with about 10 12 button keypads, a couple of touchpanels, and other Crestron devices. Neither AMX or Crestron really care that much and in 10 years, I've never seen a real issue with using Cat-5 for Cresnet.

Plan, plan, plan, plan, plan! If you're ever thinking of doing something crazy in your home, now is the time to plan to wire for it! I had about 7 pages in a Word document just going through my plans. No equipment lists or anything, just a list of what was being planned for each room, what wires to pull, and what the numbers were going to be on each wire. I then labeled every wire with a number AND a name so I knew where it was going. I did not label both ends as 100% of my cabling was going to the head end closet.

Cable TV, Phone, and all A/V go to the basement head end.

I included such fun toys as fireplace control (relay), the blinds (aforementioned), security cameras (keep those cars out front safe!), along with 13+ rooms of audio.

When wiring for audio, don't forget places like your rear porch, front patio, and garage. The garage is simply a kick butt place to have some audio running.

Think about neat places to have stuff - like a TV in the bathroom and phones in there as well.

It's a rare and unique chance in any Audioholics life to be able to get in before drywall goes up!
 
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Exit

Audioholic Chief
Here are a few ideas that don't always come to mind when planning HT.

I would urge you not to be skimpy with the telephone outlets. One should be near the HT equipment to connect to a Dish network receiver (I don't know about direct TV and cable). Telephone outlets should be in each room for the telephone, dish receiver, and computer (maybe on opposite walls.) Dish antenna cable (I don't remember the type) can be run from the HT and TVs and a long loop hung coiled in the basement near where an antenna (southern facing dish) would enter the house for future use. Eithernet cable to each room for computer hookup (including HT for PS3) would be nice. Antenna outlest for each TV and HT connected to an attic or roof antenna for over the air HD channels would be nice.

I can think up more but these are the not so obvious ones. Good luck on your wiring project and try to think of all the possibilities we know of today and a guess at those in the future. For example, get a wiring system capable of Deep Color for your projecter.
 
Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
I solve the non linear load problem, by simply not sharing neutrals.
 
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crash480

Audiophyte
Ok

Now I know more..but even more confused, but thanks for everyone...blinds and fireplace, TV in the bathroom, why not. Can I use cheap Cat5/5e cable for the blinds etc? What should I run to my Plasma TV locations for high def?

Thanks again all

Chris
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Whole house wiring

Chris,
Your wiring list looks pretty thorough.
Check out a couple of the AH wiring articles to make sure you don't forget anything.
http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/home-wiring-construction

With the prevelance of WiFi, I think all the cat5 might be overkill, but one of your feeds can be used as the phone line wiring. A run to the VC locations will be nice if you go with a keypad system or want IR repeaters in the rooms. Also run extra cables from the receiver area to the display or install conduit as suggested.

With the amount of cables involved, consider a single type of coax for all the cable and analog A/V connection with the press-fit RCA and F connectors.

I got all my bulk belden wire from Westlake electronic supply. They sell by the foot or by the spool, their prices are good and shipping was reasonable.
http://www.westlake-electronic.com/cgi-bin/store.php?search=Search&search_sent=1&keywords=5102u&and=1&available_only=1&category=&SUBCAT=
 
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