Will Blu-Ray Replace DVD's?

[yepimonfire]

so i noticed when the DVD came out it totally destroyed VHS tapes, in fact within 5 years, i wasn't able to even find a place that sold them, I'm wondering if Blu-Ray will do that, i also know plasma screen, and LED TV's have wiped out all CRTs cant even find a place to buy one now. what you think and why?

 

[JerryLove]

DVD will eventually die.
I suspect that BluRay will indeed live long enough to be its replacement.

Mix the move to HD accellerated by the FCC with the plummeting cost of BD players and it's likely just a matter of time.

That said: the situation is different than VHS -> DVD. DVD had very apparent advantages over VHS. Smaller, no FF/RW, longer-lasting (big plus for rental), surround sound, widescreen.

BR brings HD which might or might not be noticed, and some new sound formats which will almost certainly not be noticed by any but audiophiles, and some new formats (9.2) that few use.

 

[ChrisFox]

I replaced most movies I had on tape with dvd. The double dip was worth it; vastly improved video and sound, correct aspect ratio, commentaries. I think the studios were hoping for that to happen again, people buying movies they already owned. Going forward I'll only be buying blu-rays that I don't own on dvd.

I'm just glad I waited to buy Blade Runner until I got a ps3

 

[just-some-guy]

"Will Blu-Ray Replace DVD's?"

for me, it already has.

 

[GlocksRock]

It will until digital downloads become the norm, but our infrastructure needs to be greatly improved before that happens, along with our ISP's being less greedy.

 

[lsiberian]

It will until digital downloads become the norm, but our infrastructure needs to be greatly improved before that happens, along with our ISP's being less greedy.

Time Warner would prefer you buy the Blu-ray.

 

[lsiberian]

so i noticed when the DVD came out it totally destroyed VHS tapes, in fact within 5 years, i wasn't able to even find a place that sold them, I'm wondering if Blu-Ray will do that, i also know plasma screen, and LED TV's have wiped out all CRTs cant even find a place to buy one now. what you think and why?

LCD aren't all LEDs

And Blu-ray is technically another form of DVD. Still I think Nand may eventually replace both mediums. Faster, more space and eventually could be cheaper.

 

[Jack Hammer]

While BD likely will eventually replace DVD it isn't the same as when DVD replaced VHS. As mentioned already the jump up to DVD offered a significant improvement in SQ and PQ plus other benifits that was easily noticed by the general public. Plus DVD's were dramatically less expensive to buy and took up significantly less shelf space. All these added up to a nice recipe for success that was quickly embraced.

I didn't keep any of my VHS movies and went all DVD because of these benefits. Many of my DVD movies upscale to an acceptable level and have SQ that is satisfactory enough to me to not warrant an upgrade. The DVD's that I did replace are mostly the early DVD's that I bought that had only a stereo soundtrack or were the early single layer "flipper" discs that required you to flip the disc over mid-movie to continue. The mastering of these early discs was poor and there have since been DVD releases that were remastered with an huge improvement over earlier versions.

All that said, except for a few $2.99 DVD sale discs I picked up, all my movie purchases the past year or two have been BD and will continue to be.

 

[yepimonfire]

LCD aren't all LEDs

And Blu-ray is technically another form of DVD. Still I think Nand may eventually replace both mediums. Faster, more space and eventually could be cheaper.

blu-ray is not another form of DVD, DVD is an entirely different type of disc and drive, its like comparing CD's to DVD, there is no point in doing it.

a DVD uses the smallest form of red light waves to encode and decode the data on the disc, the light used is much shorter in wavelength then CD's making the grooves and pits in the disc able to be much close together, DVD's also have two layers in which data can be stored.

Blu-ray discs uses blue wavelengths, which are MUCH MUCH MUCH shorter and more narrow then red making that storage capablilities much greater

so no, they are not another form of dvd what so ever. the next type of disc coming out would be the Holographic Virtual Disc, now this thing is like sci fi to the max its wicked cool. they will hold around 300GB to start, and with multiple layers added the will eventually top 1 TB. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9011144/64_DVDs_on_a_disc_holographic_storage_to_ship

 

[dkane360]

blu-ray is not another form of DVD, DVD is an entirely different type of disc and drive, its like comparing CD's to DVD, there is no point in doing it.

I don't think thats what he was trying to say. And I'm pretty sure he knows how they work lol. I'm assuming what he meant was that yes, you can compare cds to dvds and dvds to blu-rays because they are practically the same method of storing information on discs.

 

[yepimonfire]

It will until digital downloads become the norm, but our infrastructure needs to be greatly improved before that happens, along with our ISP's being less greedy.

if digital downloads become the norm we have alot of things to do first, NUMBER ONE, we need to stop compressing things so damn much, i see no reason why music download companies dont offer FLAC or other lossless formats. its not like it would take a long time to download them, at least not with my internet connection, i can download something that is a gigabyte in size in 15 minutes. but when it comes to video yes we need a better infrastructure, sending a 25GB HD movie over the internet would take me about 5 hours to download. as far as music goes a real problem i am seeing is were going backwards in audio quality not forwards, MP3 should not even be on the market anymore it is so outdated and is way less transparent then OGG, AAC, WMA (although i hate WMA) etc etc. ive been doing some out of phase listening tests to compare formats, and so far MP3 is on the bottom of the amount of data lost list. OGG and AAC both work pretty much the same in what is lost although AAC is much crisper. WMA is right above MP3 AAC seems to be the best format because it doesent actually remove any of the musical data, most of it is noise that is removed that will not affect the sound quality. ive noticed that 128kbps AAC is the same transparency as 320 mp3, that says a lot. if anybody wants i can give links to the files i tested and let you see what i mean.

sorry for rambling.

 

[dkane360]

if digital downloads become the norm we have alot of things to do first, NUMBER ONE, we need to stop compressing things so damn much, i see no reason why music download companies dont offer FLAC or other lossless formats. its not like it would take a long time to download them, at least not with my internet connection, i can download something that is a gigabyte in size in 15 minutes. but when it comes to video yes we need a better infrastructure, sending a 25GB HD movie over the internet would take me about 5 hours to download. as far as music goes a real problem i am seeing is were going backwards in audio quality not forwards, MP3 should not even be on the market anymore it is so outdated and is way less transparent then OGG, AAC, WMA (although i hate WMA) etc etc. ive been doing some out of phase listening tests to compare formats, and so far MP3 is on the bottom of the amount of data lost list. OGG and AAC both work pretty much the same in what is lost although AAC is much crisper. WMA is right above MP3 AAC seems to be the best format because it doesent actually remove any of the musical data, most of it is noise that is removed that will not affect the sound quality. ive noticed that 128kbps AAC is the same transparency as 320 mp3, that says a lot. if anybody wants i can give links to the files i tested and let you see what i mean.

sorry for rambling.

Before you can download movies with blu-ray quality, our internet infrastructure needs to be seriously revamped, or the internet companies need to stop holding back the bandwidth that we can get. I've got enough internet woes at my apartment without people downloading 25 and 50 gig files.

I think there is a site where you can buy music and download it in flac. I'm pretty sure its more expensive though and doesn't have nearly the amount of music that itunes or a similar program has.

 

[yepimonfire]

ive looked into it, most of it is unsigned indie stuff nothing i want. i already have trouble finding the music i listen to let alone on sites that are limited. im all for finding better ways to compress stuff but we need to move forwards, like DIVX (the compression algorithm of blu ray discs is similar in design) it can compress a file to 1/10th of the size of a dvd, yet retain ALL the quality.

 

[Affejunge]

Before you can download movies with blu-ray quality, our internet infrastructure needs to be seriously revamped, or the internet companies need to stop holding back the bandwidth that we can get. I've got enough internet woes at my apartment without people downloading 25 and 50 gig files.

This is the BIGGEST holdup to digital downloads. You listen to the press you would think it is right around the corner! The reality is people like physical media. Hell, *I* like physical media (this is from someone who has their MS in Computer Science and is an uebergeek), but it is SO convenient to pop in a disk and watch...not muddle through menus, click what you think you want, then, even assuming you have awesome internet throughput, watch: "buffering..."

I think blu-ray will dominate for the next 10 years or so. Especially when 3D blu-rays hit the market (don't get me started...I HATE 3D, it is such a stupid gimmick...ohhh..there I go...)

That said, I think blu-ray will be the last hurah of physical media...downloading is the the future...as soon as the US gets caught up with say...umm..Finland for Internet speeds.

I think there is a site where you can buy music and download it in flac. I'm pretty sure its more expensive though and doesn't have nearly the amount of music that itunes or a similar program has.

I am a huge fan of Linn Records or HD Tracks. Bought many 24/96 flac files that burn beautifully to DVD-Audio (told you I was a sucker for physical media...just look at my vinyl collection some day) I will not buy video or audio off Amazon due to their compression...for audio, if it is not at least 16/44.1 flac, I am not interested. I HOPE the trend will be toward hi-res audio, but I am pessimistic... look how dynamically compressed most CDs are today. BTW I am a HUGE fan of B & W's Society of Sound
Let's keep hi res downloads alive!

/rant Thanks for listening..if you made it this far!

 

[BMXTRIX]

Blu-ray is on track, with a few bumps due to the economy, to start outselling DVDs in the next 2-3 years. This is longer than DVD took with VHS, but DVD is extremely cheap and the economy is pretty lousy for a lot of people. From the start, with the HD DVD battle, Blu-ray was more focussed more on establishing a traditional market to gain support of studios and manufacturers with a product which would be profitable and could be widely embraced to compete with DVD.

I jumped on with a PS3 on release week, and couldn't be much happier with the product. It has worked reliably for me for a few years and look phenomenal. The 3D upgrade path is pretty nifty as well.

To the extent that DVD was a success, Blu-ray will not ever match it. But, Blu-ray will eventually start outselling DVDs and will be considered the 'standard' format of choice for viewing for most people.

Likewise, hard drive based media is likely to see a pretty significant rise in popularity as portable media players continue to be more accessible with greater storage capacity. A 120GB iPhone type player can hold 100+ movies of reasonable quality for portable travelling. Great for kids or business trips... Throw a Pico projector in your luggage and have a unique 40" setup wherever you go.

 

[onkyoampman2009]

NO!, I will NOT...

NO!, I will NOT buy ANY Blue Ray,
UNTIL the GREEDY JERKS in Hollywood
allow ME, the average consumer to have a
STAND ALONE BLUE RAY DVD RECORDER! WITH 500 GIGS!
1. JAPAN HAS SOME,
2. AUSTRALIA HAS THEM,
3. BRITIAN HAS SOME,
4. THE US DOES NOT!
THIS IS A LOAD OF BULLSH*T!
I LOVE my dvd RECORDER! UNTIL I HAVE AN OPTION
TO BUY A STANDALONE BLUE-RAY DVD RECORDER,
I REFUSE TO BUY INTO THEIR CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[j_garcia]

NO!, I will NOT buy ANY Blue Ray,
UNTIL the GREEDY JERKS in Hollywood
allow ME, the average consumer to have a
STAND ALONE BLUE RAY DVD RECORDER! WITH 500 GIGS!
1. JAPAN HAS SOME,
2. AUSTRALIA HAS THEM,
3. BRITIAN HAS SOME,
4. THE US DOES NOT!
THIS IS A LOAD OF BULLSH*T!
I LOVE my dvd RECORDER! UNTIL I HAVE AN OPTION
TO BUY A STANDALONE BLUE-RAY DVD RECORDER,
I REFUSE TO BUY INTO THEIR CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is BLU-RAY not BLUE-RAY. Sorry, but you being one hold out really isn't going to stop things from moving forward. And by the way, you can buy a BD burner for a PC for a couple hundred bucks. You can't burn streamed movies either, so what are you going to do when we shift to streaming? NOT BUY INTO IT? Instead you'd like to sit around watching in SD? You go right ahead.

As far as I am concerned, Blu-ray has already replaced DVD, just like streaming and digital download will eventually replace BD.

 

[Patrick_Wolf]

If you build it... they will come. Such is the case with Blu-ray. It is better than DVD and as prices go down it will become more & more mainstream.

The change won't come as fast as VHS>DVD simply because DVD is backwards compatible w/ BD players.

 

[j_garcia]

Not everything is available on BD that is on DVD, so there is still a market for it and I doubt that will change, but mainstream titles are already starting to sell very well on BD. DVD's market share will continue to decline over time though, and I've noticed that it already has quite a bit. Last year, most people I know did not have a BD player. This year, after Xmas, almost all of them do.

 

[Serj22]

I have a feeling the Blu-Ray will become mainstream, just as DVD has been. I remember when my brother bought us a DVD player for about $400. We had 3 movies, and that was it, and our large collection of VHS's. Now you can get a DVD player for $25, and DVD's for $5.00 if you want. Eventually Blu-Ray will go the same route, and I can get a hold of a lot of Blu-Rays for less than $10 now, wheras a lot of them I saw last year were still in the $30 range. Blu-Ray players will eventually all be about $50 and DVD's will only be in a section in the middle of Hollywood Video where you don't bother venturing to, because all the walls are covered with New Release Blu-Rays, Microsoft will venture into it by having Blu-Ray players on whatever Xbox comes out next, and PC's will probably only come with Blu-Ray drives, just as now a DVD drive is pretty much free, or $20. Since Blu-Ray will allow a CD and DVD to be played as well, there's no reason not to upgrade to it eventually.

I also have a feeling that within a few years, there will be another leap, to a "Purp-L-Ray" or something, that will look better than Blu-Ray. Or even "3D Video Disc." There will always be a "better" medium than the norm at the time. Just as now we like to show our friends Blu-Rays on out theaters and convince them to move away from DVD. What will we show off if Blu-Ray is common? No one will care as much. Technology will move quick, or we won't be able to boast, and that is unnacceptable.