Why not harman/kardon?

[dis]

<font color='#000000'>I'm curious as to why nobody ever mentions harman/kardon. I've been on a couple forums and I can't say I've seen one person say that he owns one.

Are they considered bad?

I'm particularily interested in the AVR-325 since my yammy seems to have &quot;issues&quot;.</font>

 

[Khellandros66]

<font color='#000000'>I would consider the Integra DTR-6.4 or the new Yamah RX-V2400 before I'd even consider the Harman/Kardon.  the 325 only has a 24bit DSP the Integra has two 32bit Cirrus and the Yamaha has a new 32bit YSS-930 LSI.

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Bob</font>

 

[dis]

<font color='#000000'>those amps you mentioned aren't even in the same price range. The integra in particular is a THX amp </font>

 

[Yamahaluver]

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dis : <font color='#000000'>I'm curious as to why nobody ever mentions harman/kardon. I've been on a couple forums and I can't say I've seen one person say that he owns one.

Are they considered bad?

I'm particularily interested in the AVR-325 since my yammy seems to have &quot;issues&quot;.</font>

<font color='#0000FF'>Hi dis,

What kinda issues are you facing with your Yamaha receiver?</font>

 

[Guest]

<font color='#000000'>Yeah, I've never seen a good review for HK. &nbsp;I would love to hear a full review for an HK receiver, 325/525..
&nbsp;To me, the HK receiver set up is very flexible and easy, has more coax inputs than many other receivers, and they sound really good.
But I don't understand why HK can't get people attention on its products. My best guess is its conservative power ratting and fairly more expensive than the similar competitors. &nbsp;People don't really like to see 65w-75w/ch from an $700-$900 receiver. &nbsp;Before I bought my Sony 5ES. I was thinking about the AVR-520 but I don't know if I got enough power. &nbsp;I did alot of research and I know the AVR520 has the capable of driving most speaker for a medium room.</font>

 

[dis]

<font color='#000000'>They do have a fairly high current rating of +/-35amps. I went to a local audiophile shop and one of the salesmen told me H/K's tend to sound kinda harsh, I'm not sure if he was being honest or just trying to get me into something of theirs...</font>

 

[Audioholics]

<font color='#000080'>He could honestly think that, or it could be code for &quot;We don't make as much money on those!&quot;

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[Yamahaluver]

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hawke : <font color='#000000'>He could honestly think that, or it could be code for &quot;We don't make as much money on those!&quot;

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<font color='#0000FF'>That is most likely the case, have seen and heard it many a times.

Funnies I heard was when someone told me that M&amp;K tech had advised him not to sell Yamaha as they are prone to go bad and are poorly constructed.

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[Graffix473]

<font color='#000000'>Hi all,

I am new to the HT field and all so I could be totally off. I currently have a low end system upgrading soon though. From what I have read some receivers who say they offer 90w a channel do offer 90w to 1 speaker but not when more than one are going off at same time. the more speakers working at once the lower the watts go. I have read that high end and some lower end models play the watts they say they play. Like H/K if it says 70 watts &quot;avr-525&quot; it plays 70 w on all channels all the time. But I could be wrong and if I am could someone let me know I am ready to learn more. &nbsp;Also what is wrong with H/K. you say you would prefer the other models but why?

Ricky</font>

 

[Audioholics]

<font color='#000080'>I have no beef with H/K.

If the amp states x watts/channel with all channels driven then you know where it stands. Most are not rated this way, however.</font>

 

[Guest]

<font color='#000000'>I am the very proud owner of a Harman/Kardon receiver. A European/Australian model AVR-4500.

I do not associate the H/K with sounding &quot;harsh&quot;, but to me, the sound is &quot;precise&quot;.

They are rated at 5 X 55W, and into the my B&amp;W DM602S3 (@ 89dB/m), your ears will be bleeding before the H/K shows any sign of distress.

It also is a competent music receiver.

Dis, if you like the features of the H/K, give it a listen. If you like the sound, then consider buying it.</font>

 

[dis]

<font color='#000000'>I returned my yammy and am now using my old AVR-5.

Funny thing is I find this old 35wattx5 amp drives my speakers harder than the yammy did. I mean you can really feel the pressure difference.

My only problem with this amp is that it doesn't drive the powered sub as well as the yammy did. I had to crank up the volume on the &nbsp;sub and on the amp as well to get the same performance I had with the yammy.

I'm just gonna save up and go with seperates...</font>

 

[vetter345]

<font color='#000000'>i just bought a hk dpr1001..IT SUCKS...love my hdcd but this was bought for preamp output use..Cannot control bass/treble throught pre/outputs..Thats really my only gripe, but just dont like it..Previous product marantz av9000p..</font>