Whole House Wiring Basics Guide

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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A href="http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/interconnects/HouseWiringBasics.php"></A><A href="http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/interconnects/HouseWiringBasics.php"><IMG style="WIDTH: 125px; HEIGHT: 125px" alt=[wire1] hspace=10 src="http://www.audioholics.com/news/thumbs/wire1_th.jpg" align=left border=0></A>One of the hottest business sectors associated with consumer electronics today is the distribution of audio, video and control signals throughout the home or office.&nbsp; Multi-room multi-zone is a mantra that is heard from the architect’s offices to the builder’s model, from electricians to data network specialists.&nbsp; As with so much in life, there are several levels of distribution from “bare bones” functional to extravagant touch-panel control, from background music to multi-room discrete surround sound.&nbsp; What you want in your home will be strictly controlled by the infrastructure you install.&nbsp; Get the wiring right and the rest is easy.</SPAN></P>
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BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
That is a good read for anyone who is doing some work on their home.

I would like to add a few things that I have run into over the last year of having my non-custom home built. That is, it is built by a major area builder, similar to what a lot of people may run into when building a home new.

The builder will be clueless. The odds of talking to a builder who has any concept of decent distributed audio, or even basic 5.1 single room setups is very low. You must bring the discussion of wiring up with any home builder you are talking to because there are some that not only won't let you come in and do the work yourself, but won't even do the work for you if you pay them.

If you make it clear that wiring your home properly for A/V is a make-or-break deal issue then they may work (begrudgingly) with you. You can almost definitely bet that YOU will not be allowed to run the wiring yourself as the builder is responsible for any code violations that occur during the build due to errors in running wires. So, they aren't willing to bet on you doing (or highering someone else to do) a perfect job.

If you don't run into a issue with them running whatever wires you want to whatever locations you want, then you really need to sit down with the floor plans and determine exactly where every single wire you want to run is going to be located. Covered well in the article is speaker wire gauge expectations and running some control wire. That's great, but what are the odds that the builder has read those specs? Ask them what size & brand (if you care) of cable they are using and then you may wish to provide your own wiring. The builder I went with uses Brinks, which is a security company that has branched into some additional low-voltage fields. When I spoke with my builder (Ryan Homes) they were clueless... Brinks had a sales rep sit down and talk to me about where I wanted my 'standard' 4 phone lines and 4 cable jacks to be located. Her eyes glazed over when I started talking about the additional 40+ wires that I needed to have run. Finally, she picked up the phone and called the installation manager - a field guy. He let me know that they would have no problem pulling whatever wire I wanted, wherever I wanted and that I should just be charged a flat price per wire.

So, here's an interesting concept: Even though you may have the skills to pull the wire yourself, you may still be forced to pay someone else to pull the wire for you. So, maximize your dollar value! At $60.00 per cable pull, if I wanted coax + cat-5 pulled to a single location it would be $120.00 and they would supply the cable. But, for under $100.00 I bought bundled RG6/Cat-5 cable in a 500 foot roll. Now, for $60.00 I could get the same two wires I wanted. In two locations I had already saved the price I had paid for the bundled wire.

When you do sit down with someone to determine the locations of all the wires and how many wire runs are being made, be prepared with a fully laid out plan and wire list. If it is just a few speakers in a few rooms, then you really won't have many issues. But, if you are pulling a lot of wires, be ready to spend several HOURS with the sales rep. going over each room in detail. The average person sits down with a rep for 30 minutes figuring things out. If you are spending over $2,000.00 for them to do a lot of extra work then they will likely need at least 2 hours to go through your entire home with you marking where every single wire is going and figuring out pricing.

If you are doing some unusual things - like IR repeater systems, plasma cable locations, security cameras, or a lot of speakers that you have specific requirements for, then make sure you are there the day of the install. If you are providing wiring for them to use (like 14/4 wire for all speaker runs instead of their stock 16/4 wire) then you will definitely have to be there the day of low-voltage wiring to provide the wire. But, if you are there all day you can answer questions they may have about where certain wires are going.

Figure out where you want the head end to be. In the old days, all your A/V equipment went right below your 27" TV. This limitation was set in stone unless you wanted video cables run across your floor. With a new home though you can put your DVD player at the end of your couch with the plasma up on a far wall with your receiver in the basement controlled by IR repeaters, or a RF control system. On the distributed audio side, you may have amplifiers, source equipment, storage, some switching or pre-amps, and other gear that not only produces heat, but may be a little noisy. Why not dedicate an area (storage?) in your basement that you can put all this gear where it can still be accessed, but generally can live site unseen? You will want that area to allow both front AND rear access to your gear without moving a large rack if possible. Moving equipment racks is a good way to have wires come disconnected and to get irritated. Someone has to hook all that equipment up from behind and a nice opening allows for it. Don't forget that your equipment needs good air flow as well.

One of my favorite installations was a customer who went to Sam's Club and bought a wire shelf rack that was about 4 feet wide and 18 inches deep with 5 shelves and was about 6 feet tall. This rack was placed in the storage area of his basement - an open 10x20 room and was sideways against a wall so you would walk into storage and see the front of the equipment, but could walk behind the rack to access all the wiring. Not very pretty, but the gear was always kept cool, it was very functional, and the sub $100.00 price point was far under the $1,000 or more that would have been spent on a nice Middle-Atlantic rack -with possibly more functionality.

Create a wire numbering list! It's great that you are pulling 20 pieces of cat-5 to a bunch of different rooms. But, when you go down to your equpment room, how can you tell one wire from another? Well, if you have a list that shows a specific location, wire type, and wire number (Master Bedroom - Door Keypad - Cat-5 - 113) then you won't have any problems sorting your cables out when you go to hook everything up.

My case: About 50 wires were being pulled and I spent a full day on site with the installer, who was excellent at his job. I provided wire numbers and verified the location of every single wire that was being pulled. This included about 6 different types of wire for motorized blinds, security cameras, Crestron gear, speakers, network, HVAC control, video, etc. I had rooms that had specific left/right orientations that I wanted to make sure were accurately wired for speaker positioning. I didn't get in the installers way, but simply made his day run perfectly smooth and answered any questions he had. "Yes, we will have a TV on the wall in the bedroom so that video outlet needs to be 6 feet up the wall, not 18" above the floor."

Final three words: CONDUIT, CONDUIT, CONDUIT
Drywall isn't fun to cut, patch, and repaint, so why not run some conduit. If you have a nice unfinished area in your basement/equipment closet, then conduit runs to the attic are mandatory (IMHO). I also ran conduit down some outside walls near the bottom edge of the attic/roof junction that are almost impossible to get into after the insulation is in place. A future TV in the bathroom? No problem since conduit is in place. A antenna on the roof or extra runs of COAX to all the bedrooms from the equipment closet? Yep, easy! No holes need to be cut either! I would recommend at least one 2" piece of conduit from basement to attic. 3/4" conduit in the wall can carry several local video cables as needed though.

Finally, if you are putting the speakers in yourself, you will need to know exact measurements (within a couple inches) of where the wire is in your ceilings/walls. Why? Because after the drywall is up, you won't be able to see the wire! It is much easier to measure 7 feet off the far wall and 3 feet off the front wall and know you will find your cable in the ceiling when you cut your speaker hole there.

Oh, and take some photos of all the work as you go along. If you do need to do something in the future you will know where high voltage wires are, where your low-voltage wire are, where HVAC has been run, and where plumbing is.

NOTE: As I was on a budget, I ran only wires that I considered mandatory. Then, I snuck in on the day before drywall and ran another 50 wires with help from friends. This was against 'rules' but 50 wires would have cost 3 grand to run... !!! I didn't have to have those 50 wires in place, but now they are there and the house is inspected and drywall is up so they aren't taking the wires back out. I don't recommend this... but it may be worth keeping in the back of your head.

Long post - hope that provides some additional useful info.
 
Duffinator

Duffinator

Audioholic Field Marshall
BMXTRIX, excellent post as usual. I'd like to reiterate two things you stated.

1. Be there when they install the wires, even for a simple installation. I was at my home, told the guy EXACTLY where I wanted a specific speaker wire, came back that night to double check and he moved it.

2. Take pictures of everything. They WILL come in handy sometime down the road. I thought I took plenty of pictures but didn't. This was four years ago, before I had a digital camera. With digital cameras there's no reason not to take literally 100 pictures of all wiring and plumbing.
 

Dumar

Audioholic
Sorry to here you had to deal with a clueless builder ... did the roofing get installed? ;)

Just a couple more thoughts:
It's imperative that prior to construction all these wiring details be discussed with the electrical contractor so both the high and low voltage wiring routes can be planned out in advance to maximize separation between the two. This is especially important if two (or more) contractors will be installing the wire. Let me tell you that if the low voltage wiring goes in first, the electrician is going to walk all over it when he comes in to do his work. Conversely, if the electrician pulls his wire without thought to low voltage routes, its virtually impossible to get any kind of separation.

Plan, plan, plan, but remember ... the devil lies in the details.
 
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BMXTRIX said:
Then, I snuck in on the day before drywall and ran another 50 wires with help from friends. This was against 'rules' but 50 wires would have cost 3 grand to run... !!! I didn't have to have those 50 wires in place, but now they are there and the house is inspected and drywall is up so they aren't taking the wires back out. I don't recommend this... but it may be worth keeping in the back of your head.
I, too, will not "recommend" this, but I will say that interior electrical final signoff happens just before drywall and is conveniently posted in that nice white box located out front of the home. If you are fortunate enough to be able to check the house more or less daily, then you'll have about a day to get in there and get it done prior to drywall (I recommend starting after 6PM.)

Drywall people will simply cut a hole out wherever they see an electrical box - no questions aasked. They don't talk to the electricians. Once it's done, it's done. I'm sure someone will one day get nailed in some way for this, but as a general rule, 99% will likely get away with it.

If you want to play it even safer. Run conduit to electrical boxes and put in pull rope. Nothing can be said about that except that you went on property - since no wiring was involved. This is NOT official Audioholics policy, of course, and we're not responsible for the guy who eventually gets in some sort of 'trouble' for doing this...
 
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Dumar

Audioholic
BMXTRIX said:
I snuck in on the day before drywall and ran another 50 wires with help from friends.
If you’re sneaking in wires the day before drywall and can stay away from outside walls, that fine. Otherwise you have a lot of insulation to deal with and the fact that you’re going to compromise your building envelope.

Really, this is NOT something that should be attempted in the dark of night by a bunch of people who don’t know what they’re doing.

Unless you want to turn on you’re system to a chorus of hums coming from your new in-wall speakers (and that’s without any music actually playing), do the planning, spend some money, and get it right.

In Canada, home owners are allowed to pull their own electrical permits and do the wiring from scratch, and I mean all the wiring. This is an option for people that have some savvy when it comes to this type of work and can spend the time to coordinate the project from the get-go. You essentially work with your builder and function as your own “electrical contractor” . In fact, compared to sophisticated whole-home audio/ video distribution systems, pulling in the AC is easy.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
Ah - yes, a LOT of footnotes on sneaking in.

In my case, I did NOT come in after the electrical inspection. Since Brinks security was doing my low-voltage, and NOT Ryan homes, Ryan did not really know what wires were being pulled and where they were being pulled, they just knew a LOT of wires were being pulled.

So, I came in on a Sunday and was there from 10:00AM until 6:00PM. Other construction workers saw us, but they are used to different crews coming in and they just go about their work, while I went about mine. ZERO questions. I still dropped 3 grand on wires that were pulled that I had to have and I wouldn't recommend that someone bank on being able to do what I did. But, if you run conduit, you can get those 50 or 150 wires in after the house is built if you plan carefully and are willing to deal with insulation.

I didn't have to deal with insulation, and the inspector found absolutely nothing wrong with any wires that Brinks pulled - nor any that I pulled. Not sure what would of happened if they had found a problem with one of the wires I pulled.
 
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Leprkon

Audioholic General
BMXTRIX said:
Final three words: CONDUIT, CONDUIT, CONDUIT
I would recommend at least one 2" piece of conduit from basement to attic. 3/4" conduit in the wall can carry several local video cables as needed though.
Be careful with this one. In most cases, conduit is measured by outer diameter. A 3/4 METAL conduit will carry several wires. A 3/4 PLASTIC conduit has thicker walls and much less space inside, particularly the flex type. Throw in the additional wire-pulling friction of a non-smooth wall, and you might want to go to the next larger size.

You might also think about running (or paying for) an empty two inch conduit from the breaker box into the attic, and cap it off about a foot above the drywall. If you do ever need to add another circuit, you can quickly make the drop into the breaker box without having to fish. It also doesn't hurt to pay to have the next larger size box put in for future flexibility. Too many contractors these days use minimal spec breaker boxes that barely meet the needs of the average home, let alone provide for any expansion.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
No, in most cases conduit is measured by inner diameter. 3/4" conduit by Carlon, as found at http://www.smarthome.com/2554.HTML and the blue stuff at your local Home Depot is 3/4" ID and has snap locks that fit into low voltage boxes.

I found this out the hard way when I bought 3/4" straps to hold the 3/4" conduit in place. The 3/4" straps didn't fit! Needed 1" straps because the 3/4" conduit has a 1" outside diameter. :)
 

Dumar

Audioholic
BMXTRIX said:
the inspector found absolutely nothing wrong with any wires that Brinks pulled - nor any that I pulled

The inspector didn't find anything wrong with the wiring you (and Brinks) pulled in because he's not an audio/video expert, he's an expert on how to apply the elctrical code and is 99% focused on making sure the AC will not burn your house down when turned on.

BMXTRIX, tell us how your system came together, and how its working.

Thanks.
 
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Leprkon

Audioholic General
BMXTRIX said:
No, in most cases conduit is measured by inner diameter. 3/4" conduit by Carlon, as found at http://www.smarthome.com/2554.HTML and the blue stuff at your local Home Depot is 3/4" ID and has snap locks that fit into low voltage boxes.

I found this out the hard way when I bought 3/4" straps to hold the 3/4" conduit in place. The 3/4" straps didn't fit! Needed 1" straps because the 3/4" conduit has a 1" outside diameter. :)
as you see at this link, Home Depot (at least on-line and in Oklahoma) sizes the conduit knockout going into gang boxes by OD... it just makes it easier for the general public to avoid the mistake you made...

http://www.homedepot.com/prel80HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?CNTTYPE=PROD_META&MID=9876&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&CNTKEY=misc/searchResults.jsp

are you sure you didn't buy 1 inch in the first place ?
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
The link you just gave doesn't show me any conduit, so I can't say - and when I searched for conduit, it did not specify ID or OD for their conduit measurement.

I know from the link I provided that it was the 2554 cable which is the 3/4" conduit - it matches up with the 3/4" snap-in adapters that I got at Home Depot. Home Depot & SmartHome both called it 3/4" and it was definitely the ID they were measuring. The OD was closer to an inch - actually just under an inch. PVC or other stuff may be measured on OD, but definitely not the low voltage stuff I saw - and was recommending.

Here is a direct link to the pdf file talking about stuff from the big conduit manufacturer Carlon - www.carlon.com - http://www.carlon.com/Brochures/2F50.pdf

Pretty clear about what 3/4" conduit actually means when they say it. Going with what Home Depot calls things is similar to trusting Best Buy I would expect. About a 50/50 shot at best - don't forget your Monster Cable.

BMXTRIX, tell us how your system came together, and how its working.
I'm not in the house yet, but I will do a full write up of everything with photos and all after I'm in. About a month until I'm in and about a month for me to get everything working.
 
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Cygnus

Senior Audioholic
What component would you use for switching between rooms of speakers in an entertainment system? Woud someone be able to provide a link to this product?
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
There are a number of solutions if you want to setup 4+ rooms with separate audio.

You can just use a speaker connection box, which is very mechanical, or there are multi-room control systems that very in price from a few hundred bucks to thousands of dollars. It's no problem spending every penny you have, you better believe.

www.sonance.com has a few offerrings for multi-room distributed audio.

I am using Crestron gear from www.crestron.com

There are tons of others as well including stuff from Niles & others.

Check www.smarthome.com for some stuff - I ran across this in just a few clicks: http://www.smarthome.com/9725786.html

In my opinion, nothing beats Crestron for control and reliability, but there is a lot less expensive stuff for the masses.
 
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Leprkon

Audioholic General
BMXTRIX said:
Going with what Home Depot calls things is similar to trusting Best Buy I would expect.
I guess what size the store tells you that you are buying isn't as important as making sure there's enough space on the inside for whatever you need to run. :)
 

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