Which subs to get?

[MacManNM]

The contestants:

SVS PB12/plus 2

or 2 each of:

HSU VTF-3 MK 2

Dayton Titanic 15" MKIII

Anyone know of measurements done on the Dayton?

 

[jaxvon]

Since you mentioned the Dayton, you might want to think about a different driver (unless you're going for the ultra-high output one). I'm talking about the Bully 15". Lower distortion measurements. Check it out:

http://bullysubs.com/

 

[mtrycrafts]

The contestants:

SVS PB12/plus 2

or 2 each of:

HSU VTF-3 MK 2

Dayton Titanic 15" MKIII

Anyone know of measurements done on the Dayton?

You went to SVS and if I remember you auditioned that sub? You know what that will do then, it is a known quantity, unless you also auditioned the others. If you can afford it, must as you brought it up, go for it.

 

[Sheep]

I would go SVS or HSU, can't speak from hearing, but what others have said.

Personally, SVS. I loveeeeee that subwoofer.



The Sheep

 

[Tomorrow]

The contestants:

SVS PB12/plus 2

or 2 each of:

HSU VTF-3 MK 2

Dayton Titanic 15" MKIII

Anyone know of measurements done on the Dayton?

Curious as to why you brought it up. I thought you were sold on SVS for good and Cadence for cheap. Are you seriously looking at these?

 

[jaxvon]

Nothing wrong with a second opinion/new idea.

 

[DaveOCP]

My suggestion is a Mirage BPS-400. They can be a little difficult to track down, but they are totally worth it. They're 110lb. monsters capable of 125db @ 18hz, but still fast enough to be good with music, unlike the Def Tech supercubes.

 

[bupton]

Did you every state how much you were willing to spend? The Martin Logans sound pretty flippin nice!!

 

[DaveOCP]

Velodyne DD-12s are also fantastic. I really dont like subs larger than 12", unless they are servo controlled like the big Paradigm. 18" is just dumb.

 

[anamorphic96]

Two of the VTF 3's mated with those Klipsch RF7's would be a scary combo IMO. Two subs have always sounded better to me. Especially in bigger rooms with proper set up.

Those Klipsch are really special especially with a top notch amp driving them.

 

[MACCA350]

DaveOCP wrote:

Velodyne DD-12s are also fantastic. I really dont like subs larger than 12", unless they are servo controlled like the big Paradigm. 18" is just dumb.

All the DD series are digital servo controlled. I have the DD15 amazing power and control. The entire DD series are among the most accurate subs around. And I doubt DD18 owners think their sub is dumb.

cheers

 

[MacManNM]

Curious as to why you brought it up. I thought you were sold on SVS for good and Cadence for cheap. Are you seriously looking at these?

Yes, I did go to SVS, and yes I do like their product. The Dayton intrigues me. And I’ve heard a bunch of good things about the HSU. The HSU is only 350w, one of the things that make me leery about it. I actually thought about getting 4 of the cadence, but the setup would be impossible.

 

[MacManNM]

Did you every state how much you were willing to spend? The Martin Logans sound pretty flippin nice!!

I have no set budget, although I'd like to get the best value, but I don't want to go crazy. I'd prob like to keep it down to under 2k for 2 units. I could go more, but would rather not.

 

[MacManNM]

I found this over at AVS forum. This is the 10" titanic. The problem is that it is a sealed sub. I don't think its for me. I am going to need the low end. This sub is perfect for someone with smaller speakers that listens to a lot of music. The 12 and 15 titanic are going to have a similar slope too.

 

[Tomorrow]

Yes, I did go to SVS, and yes I do like their product. The Dayton intrigues me. And I’ve heard a bunch of good things about the HSU. The HSU is only 350w, one of the things that make me leery about it. I actually thought about getting 4 of the cadence, but the setup would be impossible.

Mac,

My STF-3 has "only" 300w. But it's set to 9 o'clock on the gain dial in a huge room (22x27xvaulted). I couldn't possibly use all its power. Further, it tracks to 20Hz in-room @-3db. There is more spl than I can legally use in a rural neighborhood.

I've heard such good things about the SVS, that I almost went that route. BUT...the Hsu people gave me GREAT service and personal treatment, have a smaller and less expensive product (that is more than adequate for 99% of possible applications), and by all reports is 'tighter' or more musical than its counterparts. (Even my little STF-1 was wonderful...as will Jaxvon attest, as well.) When I temporarily had two STF-3's running, the depth, power, and crispness of bass was absolutely stunning. One day, I'll be able to afford another.

I know you've seen and heard most of the SVS's. I hope you give yourself the benefit of hearing the others that intrigue you, as well.

 

[MacManNM]

Mac,

My STF-3 has "only" 300w. But it's set to 9 o'clock on the gain dial in a huge room (22x27xvaulted). I couldn't possibly use all its power. Further, it tracks to 20Hz in-room @-3db. There is more spl than I can legally use in a rural neighborhood.

I've heard such good things about the SVS, that I almost went that route. BUT...the Hsu people gave me GREAT service and personal treatment, have a smaller and less expensive product (that is more than adequate for 99% of possible applications), and by all reports is 'tighter' or more musical than its counterparts. (Even my little STF-1 was wonderful...as will Jaxvon attest, as well.) When I temporarily had two STF-3's running, the depth, power, and crispness of bass was absolutely stunning. One day, I'll be able to afford another.

I know you've seen and heard most of the SVS's. I hope you give yourself the benefit of hearing the others that intrigue you, as well.

Yes, I agree. I'd like to find some measurements on the HSU.

 

[Tomorrow]

Yes, I agree. I'd like to find some measurements on the HSU.

Ask and ye shall receive. However, the graphs in this link are from a comparison of the SVS PB1-ISD and the Hsu STF-3 (not VTF-3). Nevertheless, you'll see that Hsu isn't giving up any ground to the bigger SVS.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=190398

I can't find the dang graphs on the PB12 vs. VTF-3.......

 

[MacManNM]

You went to SVS and if I remember you auditioned that sub? You know what that will do then, it is a known quantity, unless you also auditioned the others. If you can afford it, must as you brought it up, go for it.

This is a big room im trying to fill. I also like a ton of deep bass ~25 and lower. My homebuilt that I'm using now measures flat to 17Hz. The problem is I used just ok drivers, and can't get the spl out of it. I am too busy to build a couple more.

 

[Tomorrow]

This is a big room im trying to fill. I also like a ton of deep bass ~25 and lower. My homebuilt that I'm using now measures flat to 17Hz. The problem is I used just ok drivers, and can't get the spl out of it. I am too busy to build a couple more.

You'll get that 17Hz with either of the SVS or Hsu setups you mentioned, plus tons of SPLs. Once you can get them dialed in, I think you'll prefer the dual setup over the single for pure power and crispness.

 

[MacManNM]

You'll get that 17Hz with either of the SVS or Hsu setups you mentioned, plus tons of SPLs. Once you can get them dialed in, I think you'll prefer the dual setup over the single for pure power and crispness.

That's why I am now thinking about 2 pb12 ISD's or Plus