Which Speaker in the <1500 price range

[Dezoris]

I've had both the Aperion 6T's and Axiom M80's in my house for 3 weeks now. As far as bass, both sets will do equally well down to about 40hz. Below that point, I found the Axiom's extended a little lower with a bit more authority. I think some of it may depend on your listening habits and how loud you play them. The bass dropps off pretty quickly around 35hz, but if you intend to play them pretty loud (90db+) you may get satisfactory bass out of the M80's, I was pretty impressed with them at around 100db, but I never listen to anything that loud for more than a minute or so.

Of course, my definition of satisfactory bass may not be the same as yours...

This is what I need to know. I don't think a majority of any music goes much below 35hz for any real period so thats what I needed.

 

[Dezoris]

As someone who owns both the EMP EF30's and the Axiom M80's, the EMP's have better bass, IMO. The EMP's are a great full range speaker, and if you're left wanting more bass, you should add a dedicated sub, as opposed to buying another full range tower. Just my .02. Good luck!

I cannot believe the EMP 30s but out more bass than the M80s.
Just on paper and the amount of drivers the M80s have would leave me to believe they should put out more bass.

 

[mazersteven]

The powered woofers on the Onix Strata Minis allow them to play down to the 20 Hz range. If you want true full range then get these or a similar design with powered woofers.

Excellent Recommendation.

 

[abboudc]

From what I am understanding. The SVS MTS tower doesn't put out much more then the MBS bookshelf. So IMO I would get the MBS bookshelf and invest in a killer subwoofer with the funds saved.

Might want to wait on these...SVS is "redesigning" the crossover in the MTS and MBS, partly due to sound quality, and partly due to reliability (according to their newsletter).

 

[mazersteven]

Might want to wait on these...SVS is "redesigning" the crossover in the MTS and MBS, partly due to sound quality, and partly due to reliability (according to their newsletter).

All the new orders are coming with the new crossover.

 

[Haoleb]

As someone who has owned both the original M80 and now the newer M80 v2's And having listened to them without a sub for years. I have recently added a sub into the mix and will continue to have one from now on. Before I thought the 80's had great bass. But after adding the sub there is so much more authority and power to the music. You dont think your missing alot but the music really just doesnt have the energy that it does with sub.

 

[3db]

This is what I need to know. I don't think a majority of any music goes much below 35hz for any real period so thats what I needed.

Unless you like music with pipe organ or rap , thats a safe assumption about most music will not contain much info at 35Hz and below.

 

[tandylacker]

I have purchased several different setups through Aperion and have been satisfied with all of them. They have great customer service and a nice 'buy-up' program.

 

[chadnliz]

If you get the chance look into the new towers from DCM, last year at the Audio show in NYC out of the dozens of speakers I heard costing up to $100,000 the DCM speakers really made me smile. For $1000 they are very good and look good too.......a truely great value IMO.

On a side note I own VMPS speakers mentioned earlier and that company does an across the board good job on bass.......if you noticed the second model of speakers shown I have a pair like that but they are a "special ribbon addition" atleast thats what VMPS named them. They measure flat to 22HZ and I am down 10db at 15HZ and if my speakers were not 5ft from rear wall I may even get deeper. You would be surprised how cheap you can find VMPS speakers from time to time, since they are not a big dealer supported model the resale value suffers giving many a really great deal on awesome speakers.

 

[gus6464]

I don't blame you for liking that full-range sound.

I understand completely why you don't want bass management.

For one thing, if you listen to SACD's DSD, you can't use any kind of bass management unless you want the sound to be converted to regular CD sound.

It's a personal preference and you should get EXACTLY what you want, not what others want.

I just found out that you can bypass the no bass management of DSD if you use a separate amp and preamp with a unit like the Behringer DCX in the middle. You only use the L/R preouts on the preamp and then have your L/R and subs come out the DCX.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I just found out that you can bypass the no bass management of DSD if you use a separate amp and preamp with a unit like the Behringer DCX in the middle. You only use the L/R preouts on the preamp and then have your L/R and subs come out the DCX.

What about just using 2 Y-Spliters and split the L/R Preouts on the preamp?
One set would go to the amp and the other set would go to the subs.

I think adding another component in-between would just increase distortion, noise, crosstalk, and frequency linear deviation.


Behringer DCX:
"Superb high-end AKM® 24-bit/96 kHz A/D and D/A converters give you ultimate signal integrity and an extreme dynamic range of 113 dB."

I don't like the part where you have to use the Analog-To-Digital Converter! That's taking the DSD's Analog, then Convert it back to PCM, then back to Analog again.

 

[avaserfi]

What about just using 2 Y-Spliters and split the L/R Preouts on the preamp?
One set would go to the amp and the other set would go to the subs.

I think adding another component in-between would just increase distortion, noise, crosstalk, and frequency linear deviation.


Behringer DCX:
"Superb high-end AKM® 24-bit/96 kHz A/D and D/A converters give you ultimate signal integrity and an extreme dynamic range of 113 dB."

I don't like the part where you have to use the Analog-To-Digital Converter! That's taking the DSD's Analog, then Convert it back to PCM, then back to Analog again.

The DCX2496 is a completely transparent device that when used properly, in conjunction with the proper speakers, allow for a far superior listening experience than without a quality unit such as this. This is possible because of the DCX's transparency and ability to create virtually any tonal experience with sufficiently linear speaker.

The largest issue that could occur is converting RCA to XLR can create noise, but there are devices that have been successfully designed to eliminate this nuisance.

As far as the AD/DA conversion this has no effect on audible quality as shown by numerous, credible, perceptual research studies presuming the unit in question is designed and functioning properly.