Which HDMI Reciever to buy?

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ragged

Senior Audioholic
Pioneer VSX-72TXV/VSX-74TXVi
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4155_272584179,00.html

Yamaha rx-v2600
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/receivers/RXV2600.htm

Denon avr2807
http://www.cnet.com/4831-11405_1-6413272.html

marantz sr8500
http://us.marantz.com/Products/296.asp

Ok, the yammi can take component video and convert it to 720p/1080i.

Do the other 3 do that as well? The descriptions try to be slick, "up-convert" to hdmi/hdmi switching", but nowhere do I see the text 720p/1080i.

As far as looks, the pioneer sure is pretty. The Marantz looks good too.
Help anyone:confused: ?
 
ironlung

ironlung

Banned
Do you use $50 bills to start a campfire?

If you do than any you pick will be great.


HDMI 1.1 is crap!!!



Do you know that none of them support SACD(digitally), dolby trueHD or DTS hd sound formats and it's debatable if they support 1080p? The HDMI handshake is also far from reliable.


Maybe 2007 models will be better. I will not purchase my new reciever until the HD sound/video formats are supported. I'm guessing HDMI 1.3 or later.


Good luck on whatever you do!
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
HDMI receivers

To answer your question, NO, none of the other receiver on your list will upscale a video signal to 720p or 1080i over HDMI. They will all switch HDMI signals and "up-convert" a composite, s-video, or component video signal to be output over HDMI without improving the resolution. Even the Yamaha will only upscale analog video signals (svideo, composite, etc.) because of the copy protection on HDMI.

Also, the Denon 3806 is probably more comparable in price and performance to the Yamah RX-V2600.

If you want a receiver with HDMI switching, then the Yamaha is a good bet. As the above poster mentioned, there are some limitations to HDMI 1.1.
 
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ragged

Senior Audioholic
jcPanny said:
To answer your question, NO, none of the other receiver on your list will upscale a video signal to 720p or 1080i over HDMI. They will all switch HDMI signals and "up-convert" a composite, s-video, or component video signal to be output over HDMI without improving the resolution. Even the Yamaha will only upscale analog video signals (svideo, composite, etc.) because of the copy protection on HDMI.

Also, the Denon 3806 is probably more comparable in price and performance to the Yamah RX-V2600.

If you want a receiver with HDMI switching, then the Yamaha is a good bet. As the above poster mentioned, there are some limitations to HDMI 1.1.
I'm a little lost here. Ok, a component signal is 480i, so the yammi will up-convert that to 720p/1080i, but the other receivers will only "switch" 480i signals over to an hdmi cable, but not up-convert the signal.

From Yamaha website:
Fully Analog Video Up-Conversion to HDMI and Component Video So it upconverts s-video to 480i
Up-Scaling (480i to 1080i/720p)
So it up-converts 480i to 720p/1080i




So as of today only the yammi has anything resembling true hdmi upconversion? Not even the Denon will do that?

HDMI 1.1 may not work perfectly, but I can't wait an entire year to get a receiver. :)
 
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tritonstudio

Audioholic Intern
yup, as of today yami 2600 is on top of all !
If you have some stuffs output w/ s-video, component, RCA & satellite from 480, the 2600 will upscale to 780i/1080i HDMI to your bigscreen :)
It works great for my current setup. It's the best for me.
 
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ragged

Senior Audioholic
Ok so could this work?

s-video or composite in to 2600, then the upconverted 480i component signal out of the 2600 directly back into 2600 component in, then the up-converted 1080i signal out to tv via hdmi or dvi.

Well, I guess maybe not, you would have to be able to have two input jacks eg, dvd and aux selected at the same time:(

Wait, an input has various ways to accept a video signal. eg aux input jack on the back of the 2600, can accept s-video, composite and component! So you would run the composite and the component into the aux jacks at the back, then hdmi/dvi monitor out to tv!

So can the aux input accept two signals at the same time? Somebody must have tried this before. Lemme know.
 
rgriffin25

rgriffin25

Moderator
ragged said:
Ok so could this work?

s-video or composite in to 2600, then the upconverted 480i component signal out of the 2600 directly back into 2600 component in, then the up-converted 1080i signal out to tv via hdmi or dvi.

So can the aux input accept two signals at the same time? Somebody must have tried this before. Lemme know.
No you do not need to loop the component video back into the receiver. Any video source that is connected to the 2600 can be internally converted and scaled and sent out the HDMI cable to the TV. I have the 2600 and I connect my HD DVR, Xbox, and Denon DVD player with component video and I send all of them out to my JVC 52" HD-ILA via the HDMI cable. The Yamaha does a great job cleaning up the analog channels from the cable box. Before they were almost un-watchable and now they acutally look pretty good. This receiver is worth the money!
 
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EastCoaster

Junior Audioholic
rgriffin25 said:
I have the 2600 and I connect my HD DVR, Xbox, and Denon DVD player with component video and I send all of them out to my JVC 52" HD-ILA via the HDMI cable. The Yamaha does a great job cleaning up the analog channels from the cable box.
Griff - can you please let me know what settings you use on your RX-V2600 to upconvert/upscale the (component) DVR input?

I've been trying to get the HDMI to work properly from DVR to 2600, but it 'aint doing it... I may just have to use component cables...:mad:

Thanks!
 
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