where's your class?

audioman00

Audioholic
<font color='#000000'>Ok, stupid ? &nbsp;How can I find out what class of amplifier my yamaha receiver is using? RX-V690. Is it going to make much of a diff. in sound quality if it's not one or the other? Thanks in advance for any help in this matter. -brandon
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annunaki

annunaki

Moderator
<font color='#000000'>Most likely it is a class A/B amplifier. It has one of the best Dollar-per-watt ratios in terms of manufacturing efficency, and the sound quality is quite good as well. There are other benefits versus some other classes as well but those are the biggest reasons. It has the fewest compromises. If we give full range class D (class T as some would call it) some time it may turn out to be the best class of all?</font>
 
Yamahaluver

Yamahaluver

Audioholic General
<font color='#0000FF'>Hi,

All Yamaha receivers with the exception of their earlier non HT 2 channel RX-950 incorporates class AB amplification and this includes their flagships, RX-Z1 and RX-Z9 although these have the linear damping feature added from Yamaha's class A power amps.</font>
 

audioman00

Audioholic
<font color='#000000'>I did email yamaha and they seem to think this receiver uses a class B amp. I wonder if they mean AB? I also have a kenwood receiver from the early 90's that sounds kinda good but kinda shaved off in the upper end frequencies, i wondered if that was due to the class ab or b amp it uses. My onkyo i had was supposedly class A according to onkyo CS, and It sounded astoundingly better than the kenwood, Do you guys think that it strictly because of build quality or the diff in amp class or technology? thanks. Brandon.
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A

abe

Junior Audioholic
<font color='#000000'>I will be very surprised that Yamaha receivers use Class B since it is rarely in audio.  Most likely it is Class AB.

And following is an excerpt from AudioAsylum which describes the technology is most concise and user friendly form:
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Class A amplifiers often consist of a driven transistor
connected from output to positive power supply and a constant
current transistor connected from output to negative power
supply. The signal to the driven transistor modulates the
output voltage and the output current. With no input signal,
the constant bias current flows directly from the positive
supply to the negative supply, resulting in no output current,
yet lots of power consumed. More sophisticated Class A amps
have both transistors driven (in a push-pull fashion).

Class B amplifiers consist of a driven transistor connected
from output to positive power supply and another driven
transistor connected from output to negative power supply. &nbsp;The
signal drives one transistor on while the other is off, so in a
Class B amp, no power is wasted going from the positive supply
straight to the negative supply.

Class AB amplifiers are almost the same as Class B amplifiers
in that they have two driven transistors. However, Class AB
amplifiers differ from Class B amplifiers in that they have a
small idle current flowing from positive supply to negative
supply even when there is no input signal. This idle current
slightly increases power consumption, but does not increase it
anywhere near as much as Class A. This idle current also
corrects almost all of the nonlinearity associated with
crossover distortion. These amplifiers are called Class AB
rather than Class A because with large signals, they behave
like Class B amplifiers, but with small signals, they behave
like Class A amplifiers. Most amplifiers on the market are
Class AB.
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CyboLynx

CyboLynx

Audioholic Intern
<font color='#000000'>ok iv got a 2-step class H amplifier ....

what does that mean ....
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annunaki

annunaki

Moderator
<font color='#000000'>More likely than not, (in the cases of the Yahmaha and the Onkyo claiming one or the other), the amplifiers are class A/B with a slight bias to class A, or a slight bias to class B. For all intents and puposes they are class A/B. Marketing can be partly to blame for that.</font>
 

audioman00

Audioholic
<font color='#000000'>Thanks for the responses, I was a little worried about my yamaha not sounding as good as the onkyo, that would not make my day seeing how the yammi is replacing the onkyo. Your info was very informative, and knowing that class AB is used in the Z1 and Z9 is very reassuring. thanks! -Brandon.</font>
 
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