The Dukester said:
You only have 53 posts and I believe three were in here...according to your logic,
you're in danger of disappearing
Careful!
Oh, dont I know it!!!!
""""" LOL, I'm not exactly sure who's doing what to whom, here, and who is saying what. And I'm with Nick250...who was run out?
As for post/person/position vs. post/person/position...there is a way of posting and then there is a WAY of posting. Here's a fictional(!!!) example. I'm gonna post the same thought, but phrased in two different ways (as would likely be the case from two different people).
A. "I disagree. I think twisted, pole-opposing silver interconnect cables are not 'snake oil'. The benefit is audible to me."
B. "You're an idiot and just follow whatever the so called 'experts' say. Think for yourself for a change. There sure is a benefit to twisted, pole-opposing silver interconnect cables and if you don't believe it, try turning up your hearing aid!"
It's the "B" style poster that is going to get his hand slapped, not to mention be largely ignored by those trying to form an opinion about whatever matter is being discussed. And sure, it's the Steam Vent...but civility is not to be checked at the door, even there.""""""
rjbudz- I totally disagree with you there- If poster "B" is a long standing person of the forum, with lots of post count under his belt or has given money/donated to the forum he will get away with this 99.9% of the time. I've been on different kinds of forums since 1995, moderated a few, admin of a few. If poster "B" or even "A" has less than a few hundred posts, he is in trouble 2 ways. One it doesnt matter his experience outside the forum, if he isnt on the winning side he is labeled a defunct person to listen too. But if he does "B" style, automatically watched.
Then alot has to do again with money. Magazines are and have been notorious for this since there inception and now forums are following the same game. Who pays, wins as in advertising, so if you go against the ads which pay for space, your posts are edited/removed etc. If Joe Schmoe and advertisers is selling a product that most everyone knows is junk/can't work etc he still gets protected. Magazines follow trends and money, always have even if the stuff is junk.
And example- You ever see those fuel savers??? Magnets that attach to fuel lines saying up to X increase?? The FTC took them on to verify or deny they worked, they dont, they've been banned saying they do work. So now the ads have been altered to not guarantee they work, but still say possible increases in mileage. Still they get ad spaces and forum time and you CANNOT post against them. The most your can go against it is saying you tried it, dont work, period. No junk, snake oil or comments of that nature allowed.
You think I'm kidding, but this site isnt too bad, but try this stuff at AVS forums. I saw a guy whom tested some stuff and advertiser had through a college experiment to find out if it had validity, it didnt.He posted the results, was warned against it, posted it again and was banned. Now 2 years later this advertiser does not pay in anymore and people are now posting against it 10 fold with no reprisals saying all kinds of nasties.
Now for me at a forum. I watched there as I've seen here people blast Bose to no end. Get nasty and down right crude when the topic arises, nothing happens at all, no warnings etc and it goes from both sides "A" to "B" and worse. Now one post I read had this guy mention his speakers and how good they were against the Bose.Its a top end name also I will add. So I add i, OK, Bose may not be that good and there overpriced I will agree.But talking about a rip-off, overpriced etc, you know those speakers your pushing??? You know that NAME brand doesnt even build its own driver, crossover and cabinets!! Here is your speakers over at parts express, these drivers, those crossovers and whomevers cabinets which were similar to the ones that site had listed. $375 gets it all un-assembled, you paid close to $2K for someone to assemble them, talk about overpriced stuff that isnt that good. H*ll those are bargain priced drivers on that site and here is a link to prove they dont build there own and do this largish volume purchases from places like this!!! GOT NASTILY WARNED this was a paid advertiser, leave alone and also was mention parts express links will not be tolerated!!!!
My sites have always been neutral and allowed debate with no nasties allowed from any member, all are equal. If the debate went on like cables do on audio/video forums were its split and went on to even subtle nasties, those parts were removed, but it would continue to a winner came in. Someone would link tests, his own tests showing data one way or another, whatever the outcome, thread was done. Locked it was and any other post starting with that topic again and not having proof the other way was edited and linked to the original.
It kept the peace, moderation and administrations must always remain neutral and must be so!!! We always treated opinions with the same regard as politics and religion. We wanted and strived for MEASURABLE DATA/PROOF within the topic area postings of products etc. Only open topic was allowed more lee way for crap, but that was limited also as not to allow attacking of members. If you see sided wars allowed, then you know the forum isnt neutral and people like myself like neutral, information of a true nature, not opinion on products!!
