what do you think? speakers for ded. HT#1

[mike c]

initial plan was:
Monitor Audio RS8, RSLCR, RS FX, RS FX

but because they increased the price on me I plan on getting:
(and the fact that RMK said the MA's didn't have much SPL's)

Paradigm Studio 100 v.4, Studio CC570 v.3, Monitor ADP190, Monitor ADP190

(note that the center channel is v.3, the CC590 v.4 is incoming november, but they gave me an additional discount of 5% for the v.3)

what do you think?

wait for the v.4 center? november and a bit more expensive?

should i go for the older model but bigger Monitor ADP370 for the rears?

i really want the CC690, but if i put it up front, there's just not enough space for the center and two subs.

link to ded. HT #1
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30439

 

[3db]

initial plan was:
Monitor Audio RS8, RSLCR, RS FX, RS FX

but because they increased the price on me I plan on getting:
(and the fact that RMK said the MA's didn't have much SPL's)

Paradigm Studio 100 v.4, Studio CC570 v.3, Monitor ADP190, Monitor ADP190

(note that the center channel is v.3, the CC590 v.4 is incoming november, but they gave me an additional discount of 5% for the v.3)

what do you think?

wait for the v.4 center? november and a bit more expensive?

should i go for the older model but bigger Monitor ADP370 for the rears?

i really want the CC690, but if i put it up front, there's just not enough space for the center and two subs.

link to ded. HT #1
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30439

Another suggestion, PSB's new Imagine line is priced squarely in Paradigm's series. Worth your auition if there's a dealer near by.

http://www.psbspeakers.com/news/New-Imagine-Series-of-Speakers


ALso, check out Totem speakers as well.

 

[Davemcc]

Mike, what is your experience with Paradigm so far? Have you been able to audition them locally?

 

[bandphan]

If you liked the RS line and you have the option to hear them, the BG- Z series is a similar sounding speaker, that imo is a good value also.

 

[mike c]

Another suggestion, PSB's new Imagine line is priced squarely in Paradigm's series. Worth your auition if there's a dealer near by.

http://www.psbspeakers.com/news/New-Imagine-Series-of-Speakers

ALso, check out Totem speakers as well.

If you liked the RS line and you have the option to hear them, the BG- Z series is a similar sounding speaker, that imo is a good value also.

unfortunately, i've never seen those brands anywhere here. (nope, im not that enthusiastic about bringing in speakers like i do subs)

Mike, what is your experience with Paradigm so far? Have you been able to audition them locally?

i've heard the Monitor v.5 series and Paradigm Studio 20/40 v.3

anything that sounds decent is actually good enough for me.

the only reason MA and Digms are my two options is because i can get them at good prices.

 

[Davemcc]

anything that sounds decent is actually good enough for me.

I'm surprised to read that considering the investment you have in dedicated rooms, treatments, subs, etc. The Studio 100's are a pretty substantial investment for "good enough". I know there are plenty of members here who love their 'digms, but my own experience with them has been "meh". It might be better to listen to the 'digms and MA's again to see which one you like better before such an investment.

Now those Focal Electra you posted in another thread...I think those would be awesome. YMMV.

 

[mike c]

the digms are only a "little" more expensive than the MA's. i was able to demo dual RS LCR's as mains in the dedicated HT (run as large) - and i must say that they did sound a bit painful on the ears. it is very possible though that it was the combo of the LCR's being too small for the room and being run full range.

but i was willing to go with the digms without demo because in this case, i'm after more SPL. (studio 100 > RS8)

unfortunately, i dont have a relationship with the focal dealer, thus, no substantial discounts.

re: CC570 vs. CC590 - the price difference is only around 100 bucks. maybe i should wait for the 590. hmmm.

my only local option (within budget) for amps btw is the Rotel RMB1075. i did consider Emotiva, but im hesitating because with my luck, im sure to get some lemon, and i cant afford to get a defective amp because this HT will be used by my dad ... anthems are much to expensive.

outlaws are 110v.

what other amp options are out there? i need a 12v trigger.

 

[Davemcc]

I've got the RMB-1075. I think it would work just fine with the Studio 100's, given that they are a fairly easy speaker to drive. I sometimes wish I had gotten the 1095 but not due to the performance of the 1075. It's been a solid performer for me. (I just think the 1095 would be cooler, somehow.)

Maybe my impression of the Paradigms might be different if I could bring a set home to audition for myself but my local dealer doesn't work that way. His theory is "you buy it, you own it, then find out if you really like it". Paradigm has a large fan base. There must be a reason for that. But I also wasn't impressed with the Energy or PSB speakers that I've heard. Maybe I just don't like the "Canadian sound". Weird, huh?

 

[mike c]

I've got the RMB-1075. I think it would work just fine with the Studio 100's, given that they are a fairly easy speaker to drive. I sometimes wish I had gotten the 1095 but not due to the performance of the 1075. It's been a solid performer for me. (I just think the 1095 would be cooler, somehow.)

Maybe my impression of the Paradigms might be different if I could bring a set home to audition for myself but my local dealer doesn't work that way. His theory is "you buy it, you own it, then find out if you really like it". Paradigm has a large fan base. There must be a reason for that. But I also wasn't impressed with the Energy or PSB speakers that I've heard. Maybe I just don't like the "Canadian sound". Weird, huh?

you probably had enough of that everyday canadian sound

i guess the 1075 is good enough, ill leave the last 2 channels to the denon 3808

 

[Davemcc]

denon 3808

Why didn't you say so. I would first try running all the Paradigms right off the 3808. I say that only because the Paradigms are 8 ohm, reasonably sensitive and the 3808 delivers more power into 8 ohms than the 1075. The 3808 also weighs more than the 1075, so there does seem to be some robustness built into it's amp section.

I've been having trouble figuring out it the Denons are really suitable for low impedance loads but for the Studios, the 3808 should be fine on it's own. If you try that and find you still want more you can always add the 1075 later.

 

[mike c]

i just feel better with outboard amps. maybe to save money i can go for the RB1070 and let the 3808 run everything else.

im using a 3808 right now, but have 5 channels on Behringers and the rears on the 3808

 

[bandphan]

i just feel better with outboard amps. maybe to save money i can go for the RB1070 and let the 3808 run everything else.

im using a 3808 right now, but have 5 channels on Behringers and the rears on the 3808

and with outboard comes eq options

 

[mike c]

and with outboard comes eq options

not in my dad's HT

there's a strict budget on this one. (i've already went overboard with the subs and speakers)

 

[zumbo]

B&W?

 

[mike c]

B&W?

well i kinda hate the local b&w dealer, i know him personally and he's an AH (and i dont mean audioholic)

 

[Highbar]

When it comes to the Digms and Rotel combo I must say I love it. I've heard Digms run by Denon, Sony, Rotel, and Something else I can't remember off the top of my head. The only ones that sounded good were the Denon and Rotel, the Sony and the other amp just didn't have the power needed even though they were rated higher. I'd say if the price difference is only $100 I'd wait for the 590, and go with the rest. He'll love it.

 

[zumbo]

well i kinda hate the local b&w dealer, i know him personally and he's an AH (and i dont mean audioholic)

Maybe the little one can drive you to the next closest dealer. No need to knock B&W just because of a dealer. I have used many dealers over the years. That didn't sound right.

 

[mike c]

Maybe the little one can drive you to the next closest dealer. No need to knock B&W just because of a dealer. I have used many dealers over the years. That didn't sound right.

sorry i said "dealer". what i meant was "country distributor"

btw, it's also the reason why i have never bought Onkyo here ... he's also the country distributor.

then i discovered that the Denon 2307 i bought was from his other dummy corp. to which he is also the Denon country distributor (yes, i know its unethical for him to do this - im also not willing to report his *** to both onkyo and denon) [my laziness is greater than my hate for him]

i made sure the 3808 i got the last time was from the gray market

the 802D is still my dream tower speaker though since i can't afford it yet, i'm not in a hurry to look for alternative means of getting one.

 

[rmk]

initial plan was:
Monitor Audio RS8, RSLCR, RS FX, RS FX

but because they increased the price on me I plan on getting:
(and the fact that RMK said the MA's didn't have much SPL's)

Paradigm Studio 100 v.4, Studio CC570 v.3, Monitor ADP190, Monitor ADP190

(note that the center channel is v.3, the CC590 v.4 is incoming november, but they gave me an additional discount of 5% for the v.3)

what do you think?

wait for the v.4 center? november and a bit more expensive?

should i go for the older model but bigger Monitor ADP370 for the rears?

i really want the CC690, but if i put it up front, there's just not enough space for the center and two subs.

link to ded. HT #1
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30439

I just saw this Mike, when did I say that the Monitor Audios wer not SPL capable?

I do think the GS are a bit more robust than the RS but both would make very good HT or music speakers. Back when I compared them (five years ago), I prefered them (MA sliver) vs the Paradigm Studios. The Paradigm Signature's vs the MA Gold's was A very close call with the MA's being less expensive.

If you want big SPL at low cost , check out the JTR Triple8's. They can handle lot's of power and rattle your teeth out.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Man, I found just the opposite. To me the Silvers were not even close to the Studios nor were the Golds even as good. The MAs killed my ears but to each his own.

I just saw this Mike, when did I say that the Monitor Audios wer not SPL capable?

I do think the GS are a bit more robust than the RS but both would make very good HT or music speakers. Back when I compared them (five years ago), I prefered them (MA sliver) vs the Paradigm Studios. The Paradigm Signature's vs the MA Gold's was A very close call with the MA's being less expensive.

If you want big SPL at low cost , check out the JTR Triple8's. They can handle lot's of power and rattle your teeth out.