What are your top 3 choices for shielded bookshelf speakers?

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Jinen14

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I'm looking for bookshelf speakers that would go in my entertainment center and I would love to find out your top 3 picks.

These speakers will be right next to the TV (hence, they would have to be shielded). The budget would be about $500 a pair.

Any thoughts :confused:
 
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peterL

Enthusiast
This will depend on several things. First, what application (movies, music, split). Second, will you be employing a sub (how important is low frequency extension)?

Beyond that, it comes down to preference. If it were me, I'd check out PSB B25s, and Monitor Audio RS1 or BR2s. The JMLab chorus 7xx speakers can probably be had for around that as well and are very nice, as are the Energy C-200 or Rc-10.

You can also consider some of the online speakers like Axiom, Aperion, and Ascend. I haven't heard any of them, but I'm considering trying one or more them if I ever get around to building a 2nd system for the bedroom. I think they all have similar in-home trials which will cost you at most return shipping.

Some of the speakers I've mentioned are a little cheaper than your budget (especially if you shop) and some are right at your budget. You can look even higher end if you are thrifty and/or look used.

Best to get out and audition (remember to you take your own music with you). I burned a "speaker audition CD" to take with me when I go auditioning. Just an idea.
 
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InTheIndustry

Senior Audioholic
I'm looking for bookshelf speakers that would go in my entertainment center and I would love to find out your top 3 picks.

These speakers will be right next to the TV (hence, they would have to be shielded). The budget would be about $500 a pair.

Any thoughts :confused:
Going in a cabinet I have some questions...

Space concernes?
It's a cabinet so it's probably enclosed, right? What are the dimensions of the space you are wanting to put each speaker?

Cosmetic concerns?
Will the speakers be exposed? If so, what color would you need to get close to matching the cabinet?

Got a pictre of this cabinet?
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

Audioholic Spartan
My favorite, the Era D4. It is also the suggested Era model by the designer for use in cabinets or close to wall applications. About $600 MSRP though.
 
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Jinen14

Enthusiast
How would you rank the following systems (with 1 being the best option)?

- SVS SBS-01 System w/ 10" SVS Subwoofer (~$999)
- Ascend Acoustics CBM-170SE's & CMT-340SE & 10" SVS Subwoofer (~$1,227)
- Usher S-520's & S-525 & 10" SVS Subwoofer (~$1,609)

I know that there is a price difference of about $600 but in terms of quality and perfomance, how would you rank the above options? Also, are there other options that you would like to throw in there?


Thanks!
 
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Jinen14

Enthusiast
Going in a cabinet I have some questions...

Space concernes?
It's a cabinet so it's probably enclosed, right? What are the dimensions of the space you are wanting to put each speaker?

Cosmetic concerns?
Will the speakers be exposed? If so, what color would you need to get close to matching the cabinet?

Got a pictre of this cabinet?
Well, for the front left and right speakers, the width has to be less than 10" and the height has to be less than 36". For the center, the height has to be less than 10" and the width has to be less than 27".

It isn't really a cabinet; it's an open entertainment center (unfortunately, I don't have a picture at the moment)

The speakers will be exposed and they have to be black in color.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I nominate the Defintive Technology StudioMonitor 450, which you can get from David G on this forum for about $400 + shipping. Retail price is $660/pr.

Def Tech anechoic chamber: 47 Hz - 20 kHz +/-3dB @ 90dB w/m.

Audio Critic: 83 Hz - 20 kHz +/-3dB @ 90dB w/m.
Audio Critic Assessment of Bass: Adequate down to 40 Hz (in room response).
Audio Critic Conclusion: Very Smooth Sounding speakers that "were the full equal of the B&W Matrix 801s on male speaking voices..Imaging was excellent...overall balance was quite similar to the B&W Matrix 801s."

http://theaudiocritic.com/back_issues/The_Audio_Critic_29_r.pdf
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Speaker shielding?

I'm looking for bookshelf speakers that would go in my entertainment center and I would love to find out your top 3 picks.

These speakers will be right next to the TV (hence, they would have to be shielded). The budget would be about $500 a pair.

Any thoughts :confused:
Do you have a tube TV?
Shielding is not an issue for Plasma or LCD. It is unlikely that unshielded speakers would interfere with a tube TV unless they are within a few inches of the TV.

The Onix X-CS speakers would meet your size requirments for the front 3 channels. They come in black, but check out the real wood veneer. They are clearing out some b-stock "classic" x-series speakers.

http://av123.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=174&category_id=21&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=37

http://av123forum.com/showthread.php?t=30598
 
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Joe Schmoe

Audioholic Ninja
I second Industry's concerns. Most "bookshelf" speakers sound their best on stands and their worst inside a cabinet. Some otherwise excellent speakers may sound really bad that way, so it is an important consideration.
 
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Jinen14

Enthusiast
Do you have a tube TV?
Shielding is not an issue for Plasma or LCD. It is unlikely that unshielded speakers would interfere with a tube TV unless they are within a few inches of the TV.

The Onix X-CS speakers would meet your size requirments for the front 3 channels. They come in black, but check out the real wood veneer. They are clearing out some b-stock "classic" x-series speakers.

http://av123.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=174&category_id=21&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=37

http://av123forum.com/showthread.php?t=30598

No, I have a plasma television...At minimum, the speakers will be about 3-4 inches from the TV...
 
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johsti

Audioholic
How would you rank the following systems (with 1 being the best option)?

- SVS SBS-01 System w/ 10" SVS Subwoofer (~$999)
- Ascend Acoustics CBM-170SE's & CMT-340SE & 10" SVS Subwoofer (~$1,227)
- Usher S-520's & S-525 & 10" SVS Subwoofer (~$1,609)
I used to have the same Usher setup listed, but used some old athena's for surrounds rather than a second pair of the 520's. I would highly recommend the Usher's for your situation. They sound wonderful, are very easy to place (front ported and sound great practically anywhere), very attractive speakers with unbelievable build quality for the price. You should be able to get a decent discount from your dealer if you buy all 5 speakers. I would definitely try and audition all three choices and see what sounds best to you. The Usher is the best looking speaker of the bunch IMHO.

The Ascends and SVS will cost more than your listed prices after you add shipping (possibly tax too depending where you live).
 
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dronezero

Audioholic
My favorite, the Era D4. It is also the suggested Era model by the designer for use in cabinets or close to wall applications. About $600 MSRP though.
Era just had a price increase. The D4s are $700 and the D5s are $1000. The centers went up $100 as well. :(

There is a used pair of D4s on audiogon right now for $350. They have cosmetic flaws though.
 
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Jinen14

Enthusiast
So, I think that I have narrowed down to three options...

1) Usher S-525's for the fronts and the surrounds and S-520 for the center (~$1,180 total)
2) Ascend Acoustics CMT-340SE's for the fronts and the center and CBM-170SE for the surrounds (~$1,068 total)
3) Energy C200's (~$950)

Would someone please help me decide which one of these would work best in an entertainment center? My room size is about 13x22 and I will be using this for both movies, music, normal television. In terms of overall performance, which one is the best out of these three? I'll probably be getting a SVS or HSU sub with this package.

My wife has approved the aesthetics of these three speakers as well :D

If you feel that I would be making a wrong decision with either of these speakers, please let me know. Thanks.
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

Audioholic Spartan
Era just had a price increase. The D4s are $700 and the D5s are $1000. The centers went up $100 as well. :(

There is a used pair of D4s on audiogon right now for $350. They have cosmetic flaws though.
Ouch! That's a steep increase. It really changes the value equation, which was already tight (from a dollar perspective).
 
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Penny

Banned
If you're willing to wait a few weeks, Emotiva's new ERM speaker line are going to turn alot of heads. I believe the guys here at AH gave Emo an award for them last year at their State of the CE conference.
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

Audioholic Spartan
If you're willing to wait a few weeks, Emotiva's new ERM speaker line are going to turn alot of heads. I believe the guys here at AH gave Emo an award for them last year at their State of the CE conference.
I heard them and liked them very much, but it's hard to recommend something that isn't for sale yet. Soon, though.
 
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Davidt1

Full Audioholic
Era just had a price increase. The D4s are $700 and the D5s are $1000. The centers went up $100 as well. :(

There is a used pair of D4s on audiogon right now for $350. They have cosmetic flaws though.
They won't be getting my money then.
 
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InTheIndustry

Senior Audioholic
So, I think that I have narrowed down to three options...

1) Usher S-525's for the fronts and the surrounds and S-520 for the center (~$1,180 total)
2) Ascend Acoustics CMT-340SE's for the fronts and the center and CBM-170SE for the surrounds (~$1,068 total)
3) Energy C200's (~$950)

Would someone please help me decide which one of these would work best in an entertainment center? My room size is about 13x22 and I will be using this for both movies, music, normal television. In terms of overall performance, which one is the best out of these three? I'll probably be getting a SVS or HSU sub with this package.

My wife has approved the aesthetics of these three speakers as well :D

If you feel that I would be making a wrong decision with either of these speakers, please let me know. Thanks.

WHOAH there! Wait a sec. I thought your budget was $500 per PAIR. The pairs you listed are twice that. You listed the Energy C200 which are only $300 per pair retail (you've got them down at $950). I see a center is listed with some of these? Maybe the sub is factored in?

Rather than guess, I'll stick to the $500ish per pair guideline. If I go a little over, I'm figuring in you being able to catch a little bit of a deal. Also, in a bedroom, with a good bookshelf I’m not sure you'd really need a sub. Depending on your listening habits and room size a sub could end up being underutilized or unpleasant. If you could do $1Kish including a sub you might want to consider putting that $ into a really special bookshelf that can play lower. Just a thought.

$500ish....

Canton GLE 402/403 (MSRP $500pair/$600pair)

I cannot say enough about the fit and finish of Canton speakers. Incredibly well built (if not overbuilt) and gorgeous to look at. The sound out of the GLE (their entry level line) is fabulous. The GLE 402 has a 6" woofer and the $100 more expensive 403 has a 7" and can play lower while remaining quite clean. The pictures on Canton's website don't do their speakers justice. They're not an incredibly well known brand. I consider them Main Land Europe's B&W, but (my opinion) better.

http://www.canton.de/en-produktdetail-gleserie-gle403.htm

Energy RC-10/Mini (MSRP $550pair/$400pair)

Another high quality piece. I really like the Energy RC line and it's really the only thing we "cherry pick" from the brand. Like Canton above, the RC's fit and finish is fabulous. The RC 10 performs very well for it's price point and is one of my favorite speakers we carry. If music's important, but surround sound a potential goal, I usually steer our clients towards this Energy line over Canton (which is really a music centric line). They both have good things about them and it's really a matter of taste.

A few reasons I listed the Mini for you to consider:

1. It comes in gloss piano black finish which would look great next to your plasma.

2. Build quality & drivers are identical to the larger RC speakers

3. We do this speaker all the time for small/medium sized family room theatres and music systems as well as bedrooms. If you're really intent on adding the sub then I would go with the MINI, hands down! Blended well with a good sub the 4" driver in the Mini will perform great. Filling in the midrange, the Mini's 4" woofer is a very quick driver that won't "bloat" because it won't have to carry the bottom. That's what the sub is for.

http://www.energy-speakers.com/v2/products/product-page.php?id=269


Two more....

PSB Image B25 (MSRP $480pair)

The PSB Image line is another good option. Lower in cost than the other two, but along the same lines of fit and finish. This is a laid back speaker that blends into rooms well. It's a very well designed piece.

Klipsch RB-61 (MSRP $448pair)

Not the most graceful thing ever designed, but the Klipsch Reference line offers a unique sound. Some people have an extreme dislike towards the horn sound, finding it "fatiguing" to their ears. I'm not in that camp. Do I find the horn sound different? Yes, of course, and depending on your listening habits I think a Horn can offer some advantages. In your budget, I would give these a try if not for any other reason than to eliminate them, or love them enough to buy. Auditioning tip: Listen to Horns for an extended amount of time. Part of the reason people buy Horns is because of the immediate "clarity" they provide in a short demo. As mentioned above, some people find them harsh and become sensitive to this over time to the point of discomfort. I liken it to watching a TV in the dark without turning down the brightness. Again, I like the sound for some things, but not for others. Do NOT confuse their general speaker lines with the THX Ultra2 speakers. The Ultra2 system is an EXCELENT setup for a dedicated system, but it was designed with different acoustical properties (for movies) than the Klipsch bookshelf & tower speaker lines.

All of the speakers I listed present their sound in stark contrast to one another. This is just a starting point, so don't be shy about getting out there & listening!
 
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