Thanks, good info from all. I'm not too afraid of the refurb stuff, probably gets better attention while repairing it than some of the new stuff off the line. I'm gonna probaby send the AVR in to Onkyo anyways, and plan for a future upgrade to a 9.1
I'm not running anything crazy on zone 2, just a pair of yamaha outdoor speakers, 5 1/2's I think.