WATTS????

[Guest]

<font color='#000000'>So, what is the difference between 80 watts and 170 watts? If you don't plan on cranking it up till your ears bleed, what is the big deal? I currently own a Yamaha DSP-3090 that I bought in Japan back in 1998 or 1999, and that sounds great. The only reason I want to upgrade is because my receiver doesn't have DTS. But alot has changed since 1999. I don't want to have to upgrade my receiver for many, many years. Or maybe never. This is a one time buy (money is not an issue). I have Klipsh KLF-20 front speakers, booze 301 for front effect, A ten inch Yamaha sub, Yamaha rear and center speakers. I just want the top-of-the-line receiver for this time in age. It is a toss up between the Denon 5803 and Yamaha RX-Z9. But on to the original question. Sure, I like to jam it every now and then, when the wife and kids aren't home, but 170 watts sounds how different than 80 watts at a pleasurable listening level?</font>

 

[Yamahaluver]

<font color='#0000FF'>Your best bet would be the RX-Z1 which would get heavily discounted once the Z-9 is released, it has all the bells and whistles to keep you happy for years and has enough power for your requirments, the amp section is much better compared to your DSP-A1.</font>

 

[Normal-Joe]

<font color='#000000'>Your preeching to the choir!! &nbsp;I just went through the same issue 2 years ago.

I purchased Pioneers D1S pro-logic receiver 10 years back for $1600.00 cad which was top of line at the time. &nbsp;Now it collects dust in my garage.

If you want to have a great HT system without the need of apgrade every 5 years or so, try buying a HT Pre-amp and buy a 200W 5 channel power amp which you can keep for many years. &nbsp;I love the Rotel RMB-1095!! &nbsp;

This way when you need to replace existing technology you can keep the power amp(s) and only replace your pre-amp. &nbsp;Nice pre-amps are generally cheaper then a high end receivers such as the Yamaha noted above.

I bought RXV-1300 as my pre and then purchased 3 power amps. &nbsp;When I replace the Yamaha down the road I will buy a pure pre-amp so the &quot;true&quot; audio gods can't say my sound and vidio is comprimised. &nbsp;I am not sure if I could hear the difference myself.

Having said this, an all in one unit is clean and neat

As for the power question, the more power one can have at their disposal is a win win situation. &nbsp;On the occations you want to increase the volume level your amp will not need to stress during your listening session, which your speakers will thank you with better sound and longer life.

These are my comments for what they are worth.

Good luck!</font>

 

[petermwilson]

<font color='#000000'>Hi ss,
I'm a Denon lover and have an upgraded 5800. I feel that it's saved me quite a bit of money and aggravation during these dvd-a/sacd format issues because unlike any other all-in-one that I know of the Denon 5800 or 03 for that matter has 2 sets of analog ins. &nbsp;So I bought a couple of cheapie mltidisc players dvd-a and sacd and spent my money on good speakers.

The speakers I liked happen to be 4ohm. Although there are tons of excellent 8ohm speakers these particular ones need not only the 170w but the 170w x 7 channels which is part of the THX ULTRA II spec. &nbsp;The power is not necessarily there for headbanging volume but for detail at very low volumes.

If your saying that this might be a lifetime thing, any of the Flagship A/V recievers will be excellent. &nbsp;I just happen to agree with the multitude of professional reviwers that say the Denon 5803 is the best on the planet and the closest that you can get to HIGH END separates.

Peter m.
PS: one of the neatest things is watching a movie in DTS and being yelled at to use your headphones and when you plug them in you see the face of the Denon go &quot;DTS + DolbyHeadphone</font>