No bookshelves for me my speakers have got to be big and loud!!! lol. I have looked up all the suggestions given and I am really starting to lean toward the onkyo TX-NR609 so I can still have all my network capabilities. I am still going to look for a set of high end fronts but the Jamo's will be a fail safe, because once I get money it will burn a hole in my poket (One two year old "cars" freak, a newborn princess and a coach wife). So Onkyo TX-NR609 and Jamo's sound decent for now? Those BA VR3's are long gone even though I showed the seller the cash and asked him if I could wait!!! DAM HIM!!!