Velodyne DD15+ or JL Audio 13.5 x 2

T

theboys

Audiophyte
Hi all,

We really need some advise on the above question.

We have been for the past month going around the stores testing out various powered subs and have narrowed it down to the two above. trouble is each of the stores is pushing their own barrel and we now find ourselves bloody confused. This even more so as we cant hear them in a direct comparison side by side.

Our media room is 6.5 x 4.6 metres, high ceilings and partial open at one end, with a good balance of hard and soft furnishings on a timber floor.

Trying to get an unbiased opinion on the which ones to buy, the VAL DD15+ or JL 13.5 x 2

60/40 Film/Music

What would any of you guys and gals go for?

Cheers

Terry
 
T

tuck0411

Enthusiast
Maybe one of the new Velodyne EQ-Max subs? I thought I had my own list narrowed down to the Emotiva X-Ref 12 and the SVS SB12-NSD until I read about those. Sigh, decisions, decisions.
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
Velodyne and JL Audio make some of the finest subwoofer speakers in the world. Unfortunately they do not represent a great value dollar for dollar in my opinion. They perform well, but there's definitely better to be had.

Give or take, you're trying to fill somewhere from 3000 to 5000 cu ft. That's reasonably big, and so I agree that 15" woofers or larger is the way to go, and arguably a resonant alignment will likely much more efficiently give you a good bit more output in the region from 15hz to 30hz (although many, many, sealed is the way to go if you want performance down to |7hz).

Unfortunately what you pay for those is many times what you'll pay for an internet direct subwoofer. For the same price, you can probably get four internet direct subwoofers which will perform better. For example the Seaton Submersive and Terraform:

http://www.seaton-sound-forum.com/post?id=3364736

The Funkywaves 18.0 and 18.3:

http://funkywaves.net/catalog.cfm?item=fw_18_3

More than anything, having four subwoofers instead of two is well worth it, and the above options are just a few that will outpeform on a 1 to 1 basis, the JL and Velodyne offerings.

it`s not that JL and Velodyne are poor companies at all, just that their products are pricy and targeted towards people who need `Small and hidden` rather than the best performer. The 18.3 above, for example, uses arguably the best bass driver in the world (TC LMS5400 - an 18" driver which employs well placed demodulating rings and an advanced motor to maintain the same performance at full stroke that it does on light strokes) and a pair of passive radiators for a very efficient, deep, high output bass. The passive radiators are tuned to couple well with most rooms and should give flat in-room response (which will mean very tight perception of deep bass) especially if you have multiples (which really smooths out in-room response in the audible region).

I recommend at least 3 subs, and I strongly recommend going internet direct because the performance is arguably better, while the price is lower. The size, however, is not smaller, because internet direct companies don't need to sell you a tiny shoebox (a big compromise when it comes to subwoofers).
 
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its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
Note that the OP is in Australia - his ID options will be very limited.
 
M

merwine

Audioholic Intern
I can speak as to both of these subs. Being a former owner of a JL Fathom, I can say that is one of the best subs I have ever heard. A friend of mine has a pair of DD 15's and I have also spent some time listening to those. For movies I would say that they are pretty much equal but for music the JL pulls ahead a bit projecting a little more clarity and detail in the music. Is seek of more output and some encouragement from another forum I went ahead and sold my Fathom and built and infinite baffle subwoofer. All I can saw it wow :D. I remember the grin on my face the day i brought my Fathom home thinking this was the best subwoofer I have ever heard and now I can honestly say this isn’t even in the same league. The ultimate in clear and effortless bass output. Anyway that is besides the point. Between the two I would recommend the JL but if you ever get the chance to listen to an infinite baffle subwoofer I would definitely check it out.
 

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