So my personal experience with ML is minimal. I owned a pair of Motion 10’s and a Motion 8 years ago I picked up for $150. I was looking at replacing my 4 height layer speakers and had these two pairs of Motion’s sitting around and realized they were threaded for my existing ceiling mounts, so just based solely on that I gave them a shot. They sound excellent! It’s made me start looking at other ML products to possibly eventually put together an LCR Martin Logan upgrade.