AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Jul 10, 2007 34,057 0 113 Jul 14, 2014 #41 Josuah said: If your pre-amp is set to -0dB volume, then you're sending 2Vrms into your amp's unbalanced input which is just too much. The amp can't output that volume. Change your volume to -6dB like PENG said and see if you still have the problem. Click to expand... Question. What if he increases the speaker channel levels to +10.0 so that the master volume would never go higher than -10dB?
Josuah said: If your pre-amp is set to -0dB volume, then you're sending 2Vrms into your amp's unbalanced input which is just too much. The amp can't output that volume. Change your volume to -6dB like PENG said and see if you still have the problem. Click to expand... Question. What if he increases the speaker channel levels to +10.0 so that the master volume would never go higher than -10dB?
J Josuah Senior Audioholic Apr 4, 2005 559 0 28 San Jose, CA Jul 14, 2014 #42 AcuDefTechGuy said: Question. What if he increases the speaker channel levels to +10.0 so that the master volume would never go higher than -10dB? Click to expand... I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. If you set the L and R channel individual settings to +10dB, and the master volume is -10dB, then that's the same as if you didn't change the individual settings and set the master volume to -0dB. Although possibly with some noise or distortion added depending on the implementation. PENG said: Probably not, but he needs to determine if the amp shutdowns due to output reaching its set point when volume is at 0 or the speakers are at fault. If the former is true, then we can suggest he go with more sensitive and/or higher nomimal impedance speakers, or add external amps rated at least 300 WPC. Click to expand... I thought I saw someone say his speakers are rated for 200W handling. If he uses a 300Wrms amp with a 2Vrms sensitivity, there's a good chance he'll damage his speakers through overextension and/or overheating. Reactions: PENG
AcuDefTechGuy said: Question. What if he increases the speaker channel levels to +10.0 so that the master volume would never go higher than -10dB? Click to expand... I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. If you set the L and R channel individual settings to +10dB, and the master volume is -10dB, then that's the same as if you didn't change the individual settings and set the master volume to -0dB. Although possibly with some noise or distortion added depending on the implementation. PENG said: Probably not, but he needs to determine if the amp shutdowns due to output reaching its set point when volume is at 0 or the speakers are at fault. If the former is true, then we can suggest he go with more sensitive and/or higher nomimal impedance speakers, or add external amps rated at least 300 WPC. Click to expand... I thought I saw someone say his speakers are rated for 200W handling. If he uses a 300Wrms amp with a 2Vrms sensitivity, there's a good chance he'll damage his speakers through overextension and/or overheating.
P PENG Audioholic Slumlord Oct 23, 2004 19,797 0 113 Ontario Jul 15, 2014 #43 Josuah said: I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. If you set the L and R channel individual settings to +10dB, and the master volume is -10dB, then that's the same as if you didn't change the individual settings and set the master volume to -0dB. Although possibly with some noise or distortion added depending on the implementation. I thought I saw someone say his speakers are rated for 200W handling. If he uses a 300Wrms amp with a 2Vrms sensitivity, there's a good chance he'll damage his speakers through overextension and/or overheating. Click to expand... I think you are right about his speakers rated 200W. So I agree if he add a 300 WPC minimum amp he will therefore risk damaging the speakers but only if he listens to sustained ear bleed level. If that's his requirements then he definitely should look into replacing his speakers.
Josuah said: I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. If you set the L and R channel individual settings to +10dB, and the master volume is -10dB, then that's the same as if you didn't change the individual settings and set the master volume to -0dB. Although possibly with some noise or distortion added depending on the implementation. I thought I saw someone say his speakers are rated for 200W handling. If he uses a 300Wrms amp with a 2Vrms sensitivity, there's a good chance he'll damage his speakers through overextension and/or overheating. Click to expand... I think you are right about his speakers rated 200W. So I agree if he add a 300 WPC minimum amp he will therefore risk damaging the speakers but only if he listens to sustained ear bleed level. If that's his requirements then he definitely should look into replacing his speakers.
RichB Audioholic Field Marshall Jul 22, 2005 1,925 0 83 Jul 15, 2014 #44 Josuah said: I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. If you set the L and R channel individual settings to +10dB, and the master volume is -10dB, then that's the same as if you didn't change the individual settings and set the master volume to -0dB. Although possibly with some noise or distortion added depending on the implementation. I thought I saw someone say his speakers are rated for 200W handling. If he uses a 300Wrms amp with a 2Vrms sensitivity, there's a good chance he'll damage his speakers through overextension and/or overheating. Click to expand... PENG said: I think you are right about his speakers rated 200W. So I agree if he add a 300 WPC minimum amp he will therefore risk damaging the speakers but only if he listens to sustained ear bleed level. If that's his requirements then he definitely should look into replacing his speakers. Click to expand... The key here is RMS which could easily mean that 400 WPC peaks should not be a problem. If there are signs of distress, distortion, or the sound is compression, back off the volume - Rich
Josuah said: I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. If you set the L and R channel individual settings to +10dB, and the master volume is -10dB, then that's the same as if you didn't change the individual settings and set the master volume to -0dB. Although possibly with some noise or distortion added depending on the implementation. I thought I saw someone say his speakers are rated for 200W handling. If he uses a 300Wrms amp with a 2Vrms sensitivity, there's a good chance he'll damage his speakers through overextension and/or overheating. Click to expand... PENG said: I think you are right about his speakers rated 200W. So I agree if he add a 300 WPC minimum amp he will therefore risk damaging the speakers but only if he listens to sustained ear bleed level. If that's his requirements then he definitely should look into replacing his speakers. Click to expand... The key here is RMS which could easily mean that 400 WPC peaks should not be a problem. If there are signs of distress, distortion, or the sound is compression, back off the volume - Rich
M markw Audioholic Overlord Nov 26, 2003 11,607 0 113 Jul 15, 2014 #45 Again, 0 db is pretty loud. If it only blows on peaks, there's not much he can do about it without getting a megawatt amp, and that would probably blow his speakers anyway. That's why I asked earlier what's playing when it blows.
Again, 0 db is pretty loud. If it only blows on peaks, there's not much he can do about it without getting a megawatt amp, and that would probably blow his speakers anyway. That's why I asked earlier what's playing when it blows.
M Code Audioholic General Oct 26, 2009 1,476 0 83 Newport Beach, CA Jul 15, 2014 #46 Can't really offer any further input without getting some feedback for some of the previous suggestions.. Were these tried? What happened? Just my $0.05..
Can't really offer any further input without getting some feedback for some of the previous suggestions.. Were these tried? What happened? Just my $0.05..
3db Audioholic Slumlord Sep 7, 2002 16,484 0 113 65 Ottawa Canada Jul 15, 2014 #47 M Code said: .... Just my $0.05.. Click to expand... I see you've raised your rate..
P PENG Audioholic Slumlord Oct 23, 2004 19,797 0 113 Ontario Jul 15, 2014 #48 RichB said: The key here is RMS which could easily mean that 400 WPC peaks should not be a problem. If there are signs of distress, distortion, or the sound is compression, back off the volume - Rich Click to expand... Agree, that's why I used the adjective "sustained".
RichB said: The key here is RMS which could easily mean that 400 WPC peaks should not be a problem. If there are signs of distress, distortion, or the sound is compression, back off the volume - Rich Click to expand... Agree, that's why I used the adjective "sustained".
M Code Audioholic General Oct 26, 2009 1,476 0 83 Newport Beach, CA Jul 15, 2014 #49 3db said: I see you've raised your rate.. Click to expand... Had to.... Since the minimum wage hourly rate increased as well..
3db said: I see you've raised your rate.. Click to expand... Had to.... Since the minimum wage hourly rate increased as well..
