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TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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Timbre:
Definition according to American National Standards Institutde (ANSI): The combination of qualities of a sound that distinguishes it from other sounds of the same pitch and volume.

Timbre is also known as tone quality or tone color. It is sometimes described as sound quality. The term quality in this context refers to how a sound comes across to a listener as the general character of the sound.

In music, timbre is the quality of a musical note or sound or tone that distinguishes different types of sound production, such as voices or musical instruments. More specifically, timbre enables the listener to identify the source of the sound ( the particular musical instrument making the sound) and according to some musical type such as brass or string instruments. For example, timbre is what people use to distinguish a trumpet from a saxophone if both instruments are playing notes at the same pitch and loudness. No amount of equalization will make the two instruments sound the same.

Pitch:
In music, pitch is the perception of the fundamental frequency of a note. Pitch is something perceived by the human ear, as opposed to frequency, the physical measurement of vibration. Pitch of a sound is determined by the frequency of vibration of the sound waves reaching the ear: the greater the frequency, the higher the pitch.

Pitch can be rank ordered on a scale from low to high and loudness can be arranged on a scale from soft to loud. We generally correlate pitch with fundamental frequency and loudness with intensity.

Timbre is different than pitch and loudness and cannot be reduced to one-dimensional scale. It cannot be related with any one physical dimension of a sound. We cannot say high timbre or low timbre. This makes the definition of timbre very vague.

Timbre and equalization are different by definition and no amount of equalization will have any effect on timbre. Equalization simply increases or decreases the level of certain frequencies. After equalization you can still distinguish between the speakers.
Remember, timbre is an aberration in loudspeakers. The only timbre that should be present is the timbre of the instruments being reproduced.

I can, and do use totally different speakers, but they all match because they don't have timbre.

I was in this guys studio in Minneapolis Friday. Greg Reierson is in the front rank of mastering engineers.



I brought commercial CD,s and some of my own masters transferred to CD.

Those PMC XMB1s sounded just like what I'm used to. From memory I could have just as easily been here in Benedict. They did not have timbre.

The cost of those speakers new was $27,000. So speakers without timbre do not come cheap, but they are out there.

I was quite surprised that he wanted one of my productions for demo.

It was a recording featuring the Chestnut Brass in the Chester Fritz Auditorium, on the UND campus from 1991.
 
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zieglj01

zieglj01

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I was quite surprised that he wanted one of my productions for demo.

It was a recording featuring the Chestnut Brass in the Chester Fritz Auditorium, on the UND campus from 1991.
I am sure, it was really good.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

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This can be an option also - Sony
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DAV-IS50-5-1-Channel-Satellite-Theater/dp/B001A5R3DG

Sony's incredibly small DAV-IS10 5.1 channel home theater system, providing powerful sound from elegantly designed golf ball sized speakers. The system includes 5 satellite speakers and a unique subwoofer with proprietary digital sound processing (DSP).
Oh, man, I would definitely buy that if I had a $50K budget.:D:D

Absolutely 100% timbre matched (total lack of timbre).:D

Sound is chocolaty, yet refined and aged to perfection.:eek::D
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

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Subs - 3 x Funkywaves FW18.0 + 1 x Thigpen Rotary

Left/Right/Center - 3 x Seaton Catalyst
Side Surrounds - 4 x Seaton Spark
Rear Surrounds - 2 x Seaton Spark

Processor -1 x Denon AVR 4311CI
SubEQ - Audessey Pro

Left/Right Alternate - TAD Reference One + 2 x Hypex UCD700 Monoblocks

Projection Screen - SeymourAV 120"
Projector - Dunno a thing bout em til I actually can afford one :D
 
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highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Why was a link to a set of cheap speakers posted when the thread title is "Ultra High End"?
 
Rickster71

Rickster71

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This can be an option also - Sony
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DAV-IS50-5-1-Channel-Satellite-Theater/dp/B001A5R3DG

Sony's incredibly small DAV-IS10 5.1 channel home theater system, providing powerful sound from elegantly designed golf ball sized speakers. The system includes 5 satellite speakers and a unique subwoofer with proprietary digital sound processing (DSP).
Hmm, the 'proprietary digital sound processing' is very tempting.
I don't like their marketing tactics....I'm taking my $50k elsewhere.;)
 
cpp

cpp

Audioholic Ninja
Why was a link to a set of cheap speakers posted when the thread title is "Ultra High End"?
the way I look at it, when someone with $50,000 to spend on speakers comes to a forum and ask what speakers should I get makes me wonder about the validity of the post. If I had $50,000 to spend on speakers I would not be asking a forum what I should buy. With that kind of money you go to the best high end store you can find and set down and listen and then have those people come to your home and map out your sound stage and then recommend equipment.

and with comments like this "Also do I need power conditioners or should i just get a regular cheap $100 home theatre power bar from monster? " it does make you wonder.

That's just my take on it.
 
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Docks

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Paradigm S8's with Paradigm Sub 2

Sub 2 Specs
9,000 watts Dynamic Peak /
4,500 watts RMS
Six 254-mm (10 in) RCR™ mineral-filled co-polymer polypropylene cones,
FEA-optimized overmolded thermoplastic foam-surrounds, 76-mm (3 in) ten-layer long-excursion voice coils, high-temperature composite Nomex®
formers, dual advanced spiders, 25.2-lb (10.5 kg) hard ferrite magnet / motor
structure, massive center heatsink and oversize pole piece, AVS™
die-cast heatsink chassis.
This 230 Pound sub currently cannot be beaten. It Also produces around 1% THD in measured tests.

This costs 9 grand for the sub though =/

Everyone knows the S8's linearity and dispersion is next to unbeatable.

Together these 2 merged together will provide a complete full frequency response with fantastic off and on axis measurements.
 
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