Trying to connect laptop to Home Theater System

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Time Bandit

Audiophyte
I just bought an entertainment laptop (HP HDX 16t Premium) but have a older Home Theater (HT) system that does not have HDMI connections. I've done a bit of research on this and it seems to best way to connect the laptop to the HDTV & HT receiver digitally with 5.1 format is get a new receiver that has HDMI (audio/vidio) in ports and a HDMI out port.

So I'm looking for a less expensive alternative. What do you suggest?

Note that the laptop does not have an optical audio out port. It does have a pretty beefy 1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 130M video card and speaker system, but apparently only HDMI (audio/vidio) and standard earphone outputs.

For $28 dollars there is the Audio Advantage Micro USB Sound Card. Is this the way to go where I acn attach the laptop via HDMI to the TV and using this USB sound card directly to the receiver via the optical audio port to get 5.1 surround sound?

Does anyone suggest a better USB solution or other solution using one of the other available ports or the expansion slot.

Is there a better way for a reasonable price?

Are there any configuration issues I need to be concerned with using whatever is suggested?

Sorry for all the questions. I was shocked to find out that connecting what seemed to be a pretty solid enterainment laptop to my HT system was not only hard to do, but hard to find out how to do it.

Thanks in advance for any expert help you can provide.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Welcome to the forum! If you are talking about the USB dongle linked here, then that's what I got for my parents and it works just fine. I'd say that it's a good choice.

Which home theater system do you own? I'd be happy to check on the connections and settings.

Also, if you don't have an optical cable, I'd suggest purchasing a relatively inexpensive one because it will work just as good as the expensive ones. Monoprice.com has good prices and good cables. I bought two of their optical cables (the lower end ones without the heavy metal connectors). They work great and cost about $3. You can probably find something inexpensive locally, too.
 
T

Time Bandit

Audiophyte
Thanks Adam for your reply. That link you provided above is to exactly the usb device I was talking about. Great to hear that will do the trick.

As for the HT system, it's a low end...not quite the lowest at the time...Sony system that I believe simply has 1 optical (DVR attached), 1 regular coax (DVD attached) as you can see both unfortunately in use and a bunch of the run of the mill left/right two connection ports that I assume are for standard sterio (analog?...shows my overall ignorance for some of this stuff). I don't know exactly the model # but it predates HDMI or at least the proliferation of that connection in HT systems. I wish it had the 3 HDMI in and 1 out that I see with some of the middle of the road receivers. I'd love to upgrade it, but my wife would have a bird if I bought another piece of electronics. I'm just adding our second laptop for the family and decided to get as good a one for 1K or less. The HP one comes in right at that spot and has some nice features, but apparently not an optical out, which would have been nice.

At some point I'll upgrade the surround sound system and move the old one downstairs for the older HDTV we have set up for the kids.

To make a long story short, my HP laptop will arrive in less than a week. I had to send the first one back because it didn't come with the blu-ray drive as advertized. HP made a mistake on their webpage ad and changed it the day after I ordered it. After hagling for over a week, they finally agreed to repace it for the same price w/ one that has a blu-ray drive plus an upgraded processor since the custom version doesn't offer the same processor as the pre-configured one. Trust me, that's the short story. ;-)

I did test out the HDMI to the TV before I sent it back and ran into some glitches. I was able to get video an audio to the TV, but when I tried to get sound out of the earphone jack...I realize it would not port a digital 5.1 signal...to one of the R/L sets in the HT receiver but still couldn't get sound to the HT system. It seems that the HP video software or maybe vista itself was only porting sound through the HDMI to the TV and blocking the earphone port. Maybe that wasn't the case though I've used that solution on other low end laptops successfully though in those cases I ported the video via VGA and...hum...forgot the name of the other round video port w/ mutliple pin connections is called. I didn't try to test it out with earphones. I guess I should have. I suppose it wouldn't be all that strange for the system to behave that way, assuming users wouldn't stream the video to a TV but then use earphones.

Anyhow, I'm wondering if I'll run into a similar thing when I attach the laptop to the HDTV with the HDMI and to the HT receiver's optical port using this USB device. Although I believe I have an extra optical cable, I'll probable simply share the one that goes from the DVR with the laptop since I'm not going to do this all that often. Do they make an optical spitter? I thought about that idea, but it doesn't seem like a good idea to have an optical cable left exposed, though some have a cap you can put over them. I'm sure plugging and unplugging an optical cable often isn't the best idea either.

Sorry to go on some here, but one of the things you wrote caught my attention. It has been a question I've had for some time which is, does one really have to pay big bucks for cables such as the ones Monster offers to get the same quality sound? You're saying "no" when it comes to optical cables. Interestingly enough, I didn't go with the flimsy one that came with my HT systems but still went with a moderately priced RCA cable I believe. What about HDMI, regular coax, component video, etc, cables? Does the same apply to all? I can understand optical since it's not an electrical current your passing that won't be impacted by radient electicity from outside the cable, but with cables that do pass over metal I imagine that better shielding and/or materials in general could make a difference. My gut has always told me that going with big dollar cables was a crock and I'd do okay with something cheaper, though not necessarily the cheapest.

I find the internet amazing in that there are forums for everthing. I happen to be a dabbler in a few area but hardcore in just one. I'm a moderator on a college hoops board but dabble in timepieces and this time electronics. I am thankful that you and others w/ knowledge in this community are willing to help out us dabblers. It is much appreciated.
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
I find the internet amazing in that there are forums for everthing. I happen to be a dabbler in a few area but hardcore in just one. I'm a moderator on a college hoops board but dabble in timepieces and this time electronics. I am thankful that you and others w/ knowledge in this community are willing to help out us dabblers. It is much appreciated.
I'd like to welcome you to Audioholics. :D

As long as you don't root for Duke. :p
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Anyhow, I'm wondering if I'll run into a similar thing when I attach the laptop to the HDTV with the HDMI and to the HT receiver's optical port using this USB device. Although I believe I have an extra optical cable, I'll probable simply share the one that goes from the DVR with the laptop since I'm not going to do this all that often. Do they make an optical spitter? I thought about that idea, but it doesn't seem like a good idea to have an optical cable left exposed, though some have a cap you can put over them. I'm sure plugging and unplugging an optical cable often isn't the best idea either.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10423&cs_id=1042301&p_id=966&seq=1&format=2

Sorry to go on some here, but one of the things you wrote caught my attention. It has been a question I've had for some time which is, does one really have to pay big bucks for cables such as the ones Monster offers to get the same quality sound? You're saying "no" when it comes to optical cables. Interestingly enough, I didn't go with the flimsy one that came with my HT systems but still went with a moderately priced RCA cable I believe. What about HDMI, regular coax, component video, etc, cables? Does the same apply to all? I can understand optical since it's not an electrical current your passing that won't be impacted by radient electicity from outside the cable, but with cables that do pass over metal I imagine that better shielding and/or materials in general could make a difference. My gut has always told me that going with big dollar cables was a crock and I'd do okay with something cheaper, though not necessarily the cheapest.
Follow your instinct. I've bought a lot of brands of cables, and I heartily recommend Monoprice. The thing is they're cheap too.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Hi, again. My guess is that you won't have any problem using HDMI with that USB device because the device settings are probably independent of the HDMI audio settings on the laptop. My HP desktop won't output audio over the analog connections from the soundcard if I have the HDMI audio enabled, either, so it doesn't surprise me that your laptop acted that way. Then again, you might have had the volume on the headphone jack muted. :D That stuff happens to all of us.

There are several threads on this forum about cables. The things to look for in terms of performance and reliability are what you mentioned - good shielding and good connections between the wires and the connectors. There's also the connectors themselves in regards to how well do they grip the jacks on your equipment and how easy are they to connect and disconnect. Plus, there's aesthetics - do you like how they look, or do you even care? I haven't read anything yet that states that the Monoprice HDMI cables have lower performance or reliability than more expensive cables (such as Monster cables). I have one (linked here), and I think that it's well-made and hard to beat for under $4!

I'm in the same mindset as you for analog cables - I like to upgrade a bit from the thin-as-a-hair cables that seem to come with most electronics, but I won't spend big bucks on them, either. I haven't done any real tests between them, though, to see if I can tell a difference.
 
T

Time Bandit

Audiophyte
I'd like to welcome you to Audioholics. :D

As long as you don't root for Duke. :p
LOL! Even on an electronics forum there are folks who hate duke. I'm actually a UConn Husky fan and you won't find many hard core dook haters than Husky fans other than UNC fans.

We still enjoy watching that video clip of Selers dribbling Laetners head off the floor with his elbow. :)

Anyhow, thanks for welcoming to the forum. If I end up buying that Turtle Beach USB dungle (I think I got that right. I've seen that word a few times, why do they call it a dungle. Is it because it gangled from your computer when you plug it in...That probably makes me look even more dumb than I already seemed.

I hope this is the way to go to get 5.1 audio from my new HP Laptop to my HT receiver. I guess for about 30 bucks it's worth a try.
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
LOL! Even on an electronics forum there are folks who hate duke. I'm actually a UConn Husky fan and you won't find many hard core dook haters than Husky fans other than UNC fans.

We still enjoy watching that video clip of Selers dribbling Laetners head off the floor with his elbow. :)
I still remember a very funny ESPN poll about which team you hate the most. The only four candidates were the Yankees, Lakers, Blue Devils, and Cowboys. What made it so funny was that the sportscaster always ended his monologue with, ". . . and remember, #2 is Duke . . . ". :p

I've been somewhat a Conn fan ever since 1.0 second left against Clemson. :D However, I've almost* completely weaned myself off of sports, because I just lost too much time.

I also have a friend who played under Calhoun, but at Northeastern, getting to the Final Four.

I am sure you could have a field day with this thread.

As for dungle, I'm with you. No clue. Then again, today is the first time I've ever posted in this subforum. :rolleyes:
 
T

Time Bandit

Audiophyte
It's actually "dongle." :)

Still a silly word... :D
I wondered when I wrote it, if I got it wrong, but didn't bother to check it out. When I first read it here, I figured it was some lingo used in this forum but then I came across it in one or two of the customer reviews on the forementioned product.

As for jostenmeat's posts pertaining to hoops, I find it funny how you can post about off topics on all forums and in this case it's sort of a cross topic since I'm usually on the Boneyard hoops forum talking Husky hoops.

Funny how you (jostenmeat) know someone who played for Calhoun.

Seems like some good folks here on this Audioholics set of forums. I love how you end it in holics. Most who post on such sites are usually adicted to something. :) I'd be adicted to AV stuff but not quite enough disposable income to dive into this addiction.
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

Moderator
I have an HP G60 laptop serving as a Media Center temporarily. Great laptop for a make shift media box!

You will most likely need to go into the sound control panel and configure the USB 5.1 sound device as the output device.

The sound control panel is available from: Start->Settings->Control Panel->Sounds. You 'may' need to switch to 'Classic view/mode' in Control Panel to see sounds. Just an FYI.

Welcome to AH.
 
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T

Time Bandit

Audiophyte
It's actually "dongle." :)

Still a silly word... :D
I just dungled the dongle...i.e...ordered the little sucker. I'll let you know how it works out. For under 30 bucks, I thought I'd take a flyer on it and see how it works. Sure beats replacing my surround sound system at a much heftier price.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
It sure is a lot more fun buying a NEW RECEIVER.:D

But if the USB 5.1 Audio device works and you can bitstream via the optical output, then you will be just fine.

HDMI - video
Optical - audio

Good luck, man!:D
 
T

Time Bandit

Audiophyte
It sure is a lot more fun buying a NEW RECEIVER.:D

But if the USB 5.1 Audio device works and you can bitstream via the optical output, then you will be just fine.

HDMI - video
Optical - audio

Good luck, man!:D
I just got the little sucker last night. In fact, I don't know when it arrived on my stoop, but my wife found it around midnight when we went to lock up the house sitting there in the rain. Ugh!

Fortunately it was wrapped and encased in plastic, but it was so late that I didn't try it out yet...though I was tempted.

I'll let everyone know how it works out. Hopefully, it won't be hard to configure. I've read a few reviews that suggest not to run the install disk but to manually configure it. I copied some directions from someone who installed it that way and I'll first see if I can get it to work.
 
T

Time Bandit

Audiophyte
It took me a while to get it working but I finally figured it out. I did run the setup disk and was not able to get 5.1 sound to the HT receiver. I then downloaded the latest drivers from the Turtle Beach site reset the audio and got it to work. For 30 bucks it's a heck of a little device that I recomend for streaming 5.1 audio out if your HT receiver doesn't have HDMI ports.
 

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