Thanks for all the comments guys....
It's tough to make a sub decision, I live in Orlando, people at work tell you go over to Best Buy get a sub! They don't have a clue!! I have no sub in my system now, so I know, stepping up to EP500 or VTF-3 will be some jump!
You read Axiom sub owner comments, over at their website, and the review here, EP500 is a scary little monster! The VTF-3 comments are very + too. I'm just trying to scale the commnets when a guy says the VTF-3 is not enough bass, if he is bass fanatic, any normal human would say "holy crap"
The VTF-3 in rosewood looks real pretty, will match my Swan speakers, if I have to turn the gain to "6", to get solid basss I'm happy.
Vince