Top-of-the-line 1080p over 52"

[msugarpants]

So, I will be in the market for a 1080p RPTV, most likely a DLP, by April or later. I am beginning research now. So far, all the AV guys at tweeter and other, higher end shops, recommend the Mits 72". I think i want to stick in the 60-65" range, since I will be sitting only 13 feet away from the TV. I want to know what the next generation of 1080p will be like (i.e. samsungs 7th gen. DLP chip), if it is worth waiting for this, any other future models anyone has researched, orany that exist now. The room will be an open "great room" that will have light coming in from the windows. there will be blinds on most of them. Anyone who can assist in my descision making wil be appreciated.
-mike

 

[msugarpants]

best 1080p

Anyone??? thoughts? rumors?

 

[Leprkon]

For what it's worth, I think you should wait. There are no devices that output a 1080P signal, and there are no inputs on any of the 1080P TV's out there that would accept a 1080P signal.

If you did buy a TV today, and in six months there was a BlueRay/HD-DVD player putting a signal out, you would most likely need a hardware upgrade for your TV to be able to bring the signal in. HDMI claims to have that capability, but we are seeing several HDMI-equipped AV receivers that have issues with the standard. I believe they are already at HDMI 1.3, so items bought just a year ago might not talk with items of today. It's definitely a hardware risk.

That would also give the TV's time to drop in price, as a 60 inch Sony 1080P is almost $ 1,600 more than a 60 inch Sony 1080i.

 

[GlocksRock]

There are a few 1080P tv's out right now that can accept a 1080p signal, but I'm not sure which ones exactly.

 

[clayman88]

For what it's worth, I think you should wait. There are no devices that output a 1080P signal, and there are no inputs on any of the 1080P TV's out there that would accept a 1080P signal.

If you did buy a TV today, and in six months there was a BlueRay/HD-DVD player putting a signal out, you would most likely need a hardware upgrade for your TV to be able to bring the signal in. HDMI claims to have that capability, but we are seeing several HDMI-equipped AV receivers that have issues with the standard. I believe they are already at HDMI 1.3, so items bought just a year ago might not talk with items of today. It's definitely a hardware risk.

That would also give the TV's time to drop in price, as a 60 inch Sony 1080P is almost $ 1,600 more than a 60 inch Sony 1080i.

Ditto....I know you said only DLP's, but I would seriously consider the next generation Sony SXRD's. There is an enormous amount of excellent reviews on Sony's LCOS SXRD sets. My other option would be the Mitsu though.

I'm waiting for the next gen 1080p's as well. I believe its called "future-proofing". I know I know...you can't wait forever.

 

[Leprkon]

There are a few 1080P tv's out right now that can accept a 1080p signal, but I'm not sure which ones exactly.

This is not precisely true. The newest units from Sony, Toshiba, and Samsung can all scale and display a 1080P signal. They cannot actually input a signal from a 1080P source.

 

[GlocksRock]

This is not precisely true. The newest units from Sony, Toshiba, and Samsung can all scale and display a 1080P signal. They cannot actually input a signal from a 1080P source.

There ARE some tv's that do accept a true 1080p signal, such as this one for instance.

http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?category=flat_panel_tvs&catLevel=3&storeName=storefronts&subcat1=mdtv&product_code=L1798A#ABA&jumpid=oc_R1002_USENC-001_HP Pavilion md5880n 58 inch 1080p Microdisplay TV

 

[Hanse18]

Leprkon, don't spread incorrect information.

The whole 1080p acceptance discussion has occurred like 5 times in the past month on these very forums, everyone should just do a little bit of back research before bringing this subject up again. DLP missed the 1080p boat this year. The only DLP that can accept a native 1080p display is the HP, but it is displayed using a 960X1080 chip, and then wobulation kicks in and doubles the vertical resolution. So if you're cool with that, go ahead and buy the HP, or any other current DLP 1080p display if u dont need a 1080p capable input. Otherwise, LCOS has models that can accept 1080p. the newest brillian LCOS does, and says so in their manual, as does the new 1080p JVC's, albeit they do not claim to.

Sure, wait until next year... Then there will be something that will make you want to wait a year longer, and then something else the year after that... It's a viscious cycle. If you jump now, a good "1080p" TV would be the 60" Sony SXRD. I guess it can accept 1080p over firewire? If you want 1080p input, I am in the process of ordering the JVC HD-70FH96, a 70" 1080p HD-ILA tv, that accepts 1080p, which i need for my htpc. There are also smaller JVC models, and their pq is decent.

 

[Leprkon]

Leprkon, don't spread incorrect information.

Sure, wait until next year... Then there will be something that will make you want to wait a year longer, and then something else the year after that... It's a viscious cycle. If you jump now, a good "1080p" TV would be the 60" Sony SXRD. I guess it can accept 1080p over firewire? If you want 1080p input, I am in the process of ordering the JVC HD-70FH96, a 70" 1080p HD-ILA tv, that accepts 1080p, which i need for my htpc. There are also smaller JVC models, and their pq is decent.

What exactly did I say that was incorrect ?

There are NO conventional movie devices that will output 1080P. For crying out loud, the HD-DVD as this year's Las Vegas show was only 720P. The Blue Ray was only slightly better, at 1080i.


The SOny SXRD's are not currently equipped to accept a 1080P signal. See this data stolen from Cruchtfield's website:

» 10 A/V inputs, including:
• 3 composite video (2 rear, 1 front)
• 3 S-video (2 rear, 1 front)
• 2 HD-compatible component video (accepts 1080i/720p/480p/480i signals)
• 2 HDMI digital audio/video inputs (accepts signals up to 1080i)
• 3 i.LINK® (IEEE 1394) ports (2 rear, 1 front)

no mention of 1080P input.

Until the market establishes a solid convention for 1080P input, which is the main reason to get a 1080P TV, anyone who buys one will be a) jumping the gun, and b) buying another TV in less than two years.

If you want to get a great big computer display so you can play Doom in 1080P, that's about all you will accomplish.

 

[elgringo]

So the Manufacturer's are liars?

Check out this Mit: http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/common/getfile.asp?uuid={64788EC0-2AA5-48DE-B171-A822F6AA5239}

It will take a 1080i and upconvert to 1080p. From what I have seen it looks very good for $3200. But that is about $700 more than the Samsung HL-R5078W which should do the same thing.

 

[Xsound]

Brillian does. According to their web-site the 6580iFB supports input for 1080i & 1080p. Sony joined them for a partnership in the LCoS technology.

http://www.brilliancorp.com/PDF/HDTV/6580iFB_Sheet.pdf

Enjoy
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[Quadd]

That is the set I have and it is great.

 

[clayman88]

What exactly did I say that was incorrect ?

This........

there are no inputs on any of the 1080P TV's out there that would accept a 1080P signal.