titanic sub

[tazman]

I am looking to get a new sub.I have 5 energy connoisser speakers,a Yamaha rx-v659 rec.Room is about 2700 cu.ft.I don't want to spend more than 500-600$.I know SVS and HSU are good But i would like to build a kit>Titanic mk 3 seam to have good parts but i can't find many user's or reviews.Any ideas?

 

[Adam]

tazman, welcome to the forum!

I don't know about those kits, but there are people here that do (although they may not be on at the moment).

If you haven't already, I'd suggest going to the subwoofer forum here and do a search (in that forum) for "titanic". I found 68 threads that contained that word, and I remember seeing those kits discussed around here. Just some light reading while you're waiting for the experts to chime in.

 

[j_garcia]

Do you have the ability to build the enclosure yourself?

 

[annunaki]

I did the Titanic MkIII 15" subwoofer, 3.0 ft^3 sealed enclosure, and the 500 watt Dayton amplifier in my parent's new addition. (3,400 ft^2 or so) It works very well. It plays plenty deep and sounds quite good with music too.

 

[Seth=L]

I did the Titanic MkIII 15" subwoofer, 3.0 ft^3 sealed enclosure, and the 500 watt Dayton amplifier in my parent's new addition. (3,400 ft^2 or so) It works very well. It plays plenty deep and sounds quite good with music too.

O rly?

I have often wondered about this myself, I will keep an eye on this thread.

 

[speakerman39]

I did the Titanic MkIII 15" subwoofer, 3.0 ft^3 sealed enclosure, and the 500 watt Dayton amplifier in my parent's new addition. (3,400 ft^2 or so) It works very well. It plays plenty deep and sounds quite good with music too.

Hey, how would you think the 15" Reference HF driver work in that same exact configuration? I mean would it be more musical and sacrifice a few dbs or so? Just curious as you seem to know a great deal regarding the diy subs out there and all. By all means feel free to elaborate as I am most interested.

 

[annunaki]

I think the 15" HF driver would do quite well in that situation. It may not get quite as loud as the Titanic but it may be a bit more musical. It is designed to be their "High Fidelity" driver

The only thing I can suggest to do is to try it out. I believe though that it modeled better in a 2.0ft^3 enclosure. I can check it again though.

If you are after serious low end (flat response below 25-30hz) without an eq in the system, ported is your best bet.

 

[gmichael]

Hey, how would you think the 15" Reference HF driver work in that same exact configuration? I mean would it be more musical and sacrifice a few dbs or so? Just curious as you seem to know a great deal regarding the diy subs out there and all. By all means feel free to elaborate as I am most interested.

Yes, you have it right. I bought the MKIII 15" kit. It has the Titanic driver with the 1000 watt amp.
I have read many reviews and have friends who have built with the HF driver and 500 watt amp. They appear to have a better sound for music and only give up a few db's in total output. If I had it to do over, I'd use the 1000 watt amp with two of the HF drivers.

 

[wyllisx1]

Hi Tazman I'm just across the river in Windsor.

Good luck with the build. I went with a HSU didn't want to try to build my own.

 

[speakerman39]

I think the 15" HF driver would do quite well in that situation. It may not get quite as loud as the Titanic but it may be a bit more musical. It is designed to be their "High Fidelity" driver

The only thing I can suggest to do is to try it out. I believe though that it modeled better in a 2.0ft^3 enclosure. I can check it again though.

If you are after serious low end (flat response below 25-30hz) without an eq in the system, ported is your best bet.

What I am serious about is above the 30 Hz range. More specifically, say from 30-90 Hz range where most of the musical action is at. I have a SVS PB12-NSD that handles the real low and does it supebly. I am after more musical impact-lot of tight, punchy, and articulate bass that does NOT sound one notish if you will. This is in essence why I am researching things so thoroughly. Appreciate the info as you are very knowledgeable.

 

[speakerman39]

Yes, you have it right. I bought the MKIII 15" kit. It has the Titanic driver with the 1000 watt amp.
I have read many reviews and have friends who have built with the HF driver and 500 watt amp. They appear to have a better sound for music and only give up a few db's in total output. If I had it to do over, I'd use the 1000 watt amp with two of the HF drivers.

Oh man this has me sooooooooo interested. The Dayton Reference HF drivers have really gotten my attention. More than willing to give up a few dbs in order to gain a more musical sub. Chances are, the only dbs I would be giving up would be on the very low end say below 28 Hz or so. My SVS PB12-NSD can take care of that. Thanks for the info. BTW, (2) 15" Dayton Reference HF drivers with the Dayton 1000 watt plate amp would have to be awesome to say the LEAST!!!!!!

 

[jonnythan]

I built a sonosub using the 12" Dayton Reference HF driver.

Pretty awesome.

I haven't taken any measurements of it, but my calculations and plan had the F3 at, I think, 23 Hz.

If I were doing it again, I'd probably build a sealed sub with a Linkwitz Transform using a Rhythmik Audio driver and amp.

 

[gmichael]

Oh man this has me sooooooooo interested. The Dayton Reference HF drivers have really gotten my attention. More than willing to give up a few dbs in order to gain a more musical sub. Chances are, the only dbs I would be giving up would be on the very low end say below 28 Hz or so. My SVS PB12-NSD can take care of that. Thanks for the info. BTW, (2) 15" Dayton Reference HF drivers with the Dayton 1000 watt plate amp would have to be awesome to say the LEAST!!!!!!

Happy thumping.

 

[annunaki]

What I am serious about is above the 30 Hz range. More specifically, say from 30-90 Hz range where most of the musical action is at. I have a SVS PB12-NSD that handles the real low and does it supebly. I am after more musical impact-lot of tight, punchy, and articulate bass that does NOT sound one notish if you will. This is in essence why I am researching things so thoroughly. Appreciate the info as you are very knowledgeable.

I would just say go ahead and get the Dayton HF. It should suit what you are after. I would seriously consider two of them though. Two of them sealed should provide some excellent bass, even down low without an eq. I would still add an eq down the road at some point.

If an EQ may be in line in the future I would recommend seperate amps for each sub. Perhaps doing two 15" dayton HF's with a Behringer EP2500 to power them.

$160 each for the subs and $350 for the amp at parts express. Better deals may be available on the amplifier. Sounds like a killer setup to me. In a few months add the Behringer DCX2496 and you have a world class sub system that should be ruler flat from 20hz-80hz at impressive levels. Not to mention, you could tweak it anyway you like depending upon your tastes.

 

[Seth=L]

I would just say go ahead and get the Dayton HF. It should suit what you are after. I would seriously consider two of them though. Two of them sealed should provice some excellent bass, even down low without an eq. I would still add an eq down the road at some point.

If an EQ may be in line in the future I would recommend seperate amps for each sub. Perhaps doing two 15" dayton HF's with a Behringer EP2500 to power them.

$160 each for the subs and $350 for the amp at parts express. Better deals may be available on the amplifier. Sounds like a killer setup to me. In a few months add the Behringer DCX2496 and you have a world class sub system that should be ruler flat from 20hz-80hz at impressive levels. Not to mention, you could tweak it anyway you like depending upon your tastes.

This sounds very drool.

 

[annunaki]

This sounds very drool.

That is what I was thinking as I typed it. For under a grand you could do dual 15" subs, a full eq/crossover system and over 1,000 watts rms!!!


Doing them ported, tuned to about 18-19hz would allow for some SERIOUS output.

Edit: I was just thinking, I could sell/replace my PB-12 Ultra and have matching subs on either side of my sofa and way more output than before. hmmmm

 

[speakerman39]

I built a sonosub using the 12" Dayton Reference HF driver.

Pretty awesome.

I haven't taken any measurements of it, but my calculations and plan had the F3 at, I think, 23 Hz.

If I were doing it again, I'd probably build a sealed sub with a Linkwitz Transform using a Rhythmik Audio driver and amp.

I hear ya on that. I am also looking at the Rythmik kits. This is why I am in NO hurry to make a decision. Until I do, my SVS PB12-NSD will do just fine. Most of the fun is learning more about the diy subs available out there.

 

[speakerman39]

I would just say go ahead and get the Dayton HF. It should suit what you are after. I would seriously consider two of them though. Two of them sealed should provide some excellent bass, even down low without an eq. I would still add an eq down the road at some point.

If an EQ may be in line in the future I would recommend seperate amps for each sub. Perhaps doing two 15" dayton HF's with a Behringer EP2500 to power them.

$160 each for the subs and $350 for the amp at parts express. Better deals may be available on the amplifier. Sounds like a killer setup to me. In a few months add the Behringer DCX2496 and you have a world class sub system that should be ruler flat from 20hz-80hz at impressive levels. Not to mention, you could tweak it anyway you like depending upon your tastes.

Yeah this is why I am considering all options at this point. To be honest, it looks like the Dayton 15" Quatro is also a stellar performer. Great price and top-notch performance to boot. However, it will, as always, come down to my budget at the time when I am ready to order. This will be a while though which in turn allows for some extra time to consider all options so to speak.

 

[speakerman39]

Happy thumping.

I have NOT ordered anything just yet. Not really in any hurry-besides my funds are rather limited right now anyways.

 

[annunaki]

Yeah this is why I am considering all options at this point. To be honest, it looks like the Dayton 15" Quatro is also a stellar performer. Great price and top-notch performance to boot. However, it will, as always, come down to my budget at the time when I am ready to order. This will be a while though which in turn allows for some extra time to consider all options so to speak.

The Quattro does NOT model well. It is really decent from about 35hz on up but below that??? The HF is the best modeling of all the Dayton Drivers. It tunes as low or lower than the Titanic and fits in smaller sealed enclosures with similar or better response. Sure you lose a couple db but you make up for it in accuracy and linearity.