THX certification question.

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norml4721

Audioholic Intern
Hi Guys :

How can you tell if your sub conforms to THX select 2 standards. Running the Mcacc cal on my Pioneer Elite vsx-52 receiver and on one of the questions on the audio THX menu is just that. I have a Focal sub.

thanks,

Norm L
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Just say yes. You didn't say what model, so can't really tell you a whole lot based on that.
 
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norml4721

Audioholic Intern
Thx

Hi Guys :

I have the Cobalt sub along with another 9 Cobalt, Focal speakers. None of them are THX certified. But I did however get my question answered on the AVS forum. THX certfied speakers, subs are made to be used in with THX certified reveivers and togther the subs will xover at 80 htz. and have a rollover of about have of that. They are quarrantied to run together to reach certain reference specs.

I quess I will just say yes and then no to the Mcacc cal audio THX question and compare the two resuts.

Even though my speakers and sub are not THX qualified I am very happy with them. Just wanted to know a little bit about THX. If you have an interest check out the responce that I got to the question on the AVS forum in the subwoofer threads same id norml4721.

Thank you for the input.

Best,

Norm L
 
timoteo

timoteo

Audioholic General
Many speakers & subs that aren't THX cert actually perform better than those that are. THX cert just says they meet certain standards.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Many speakers & subs that aren't THX cert actually perform better than those that are. THX cert just says they meet certain standards.
AFAIK, THX cert on a speaker doesn't mean a lot. My receiver asks if my setup is THX as well, and none of my speaker are cert but I use the THX settings. Simple as that. For a sub it pretty much means works with an 80Hz x-over and extends to 20Hz, which most decent subs are capable of.
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
Everything about THX Certification and more.

Q: Why is THX so adamant about having only one source in a multi channel system producing bass below 80Hz while also having a fixed 80Hz global crossover setting? Our blind listening tests revealed that placing a subwoofer near a listener is localizable when crossed over above 60Hz (24dB/octave). In addition, many users enjoy large bass capable main speakers and prefer the advantages of stereo bass while also supplementing their speakers with a subwoofer and adjustable crossover setting. Higher crossovers limit where the subs can be placed to properly cross to the satellites and not be localizable.

A: Here's another of those "how much rope" questions. 80Hz is a very thoughtfully and scientifically chosen compromise, but is indeed compromised for some people in some situations. An interesting and useful experiment is to listen to a sub by itself, playing program material at various levels, moved from place to place with the crossover changed from point to point-all done blind. The listener cannot know ahead of time what he's listening to. Other crossover points can work just fine but place more restrictions on the system than 80Hz.

Some of the observations/issues are as follows:

Unless you're sitting right on top of it, a sub properly crossed at 80Hz, 24dB/octave and free of stray resonance, rattles, port chuffing, coil bumping and the like cannot be localized. 160Hz is the lowest frequency that is consistently localizable by most people in most situations.

Lower crossovers require larger screen speakers that load the room's bass modes at inflexible locations to the left and right of the screen. This makes it more difficult to get smooth bass in all the seats in the theater.

Larger speakers are sometimes more difficult to place properly in relation to the picture, particularly the center speaker, which is the most important speaker in movie sound.
 

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