The "Unofficial" Marantz "Cinema Series" "2022-2023" AV Pre-Launch Thread

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TheAVInsider

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2022-2023 Marantz Cinema Series


Stereo 70s......Replaces NR1200.....Expected Q4 2023

Cinema 70s....Replaces NR1711.....Expected Q4 2022

Cinema 60......Replaces SR5015.....Expected Q4 2022

Cinema 50......Replaces SR6015.....Expected Q4 2022

Cinema 40......Replaces SR7015.....Expected Q3 2023

AV 10 + AMP 10 are the New Flagship Separates.....Expected Q3 2023

Further additions and updates..........Expected 2024

-“S” denotes the slimline
-“Stereo”, “Cinema”, “AV”, and “AMP” are the new naming conventions
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Things that you may notice at first glance
-New Target Markets and Marketing Strategies
-New design step-up by price point, but all materials are premium
-HDAM SA-2
-Marantz logo on the Power Transformer
-New Premium Remote
-New HD GUI is now called “Marantz Teal”
-Keeping the Porthole
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New Features
-CINEMA Series includes these plus many more new improvements and technology
• CINEMA 40 and above are made in Shirakawa
• Up to 4 independent subwoofer outputs (Cinema 50 and above have 4 independent Sub outputs, the others have two)
• Up to 7 native 8K inputs
• Dual subwoofer modes for better blending with main channels (cinema 50 and above)
• Preamp mode shuts off internal amps (all models)
• Dirac Live permits the most advanced room correction suite on the market (Cinema 50 and above)
• Across the board improvements in audio performance (all models)
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New and Improved AVR Experience
• 8K, Dynamic HDR content through AVR to 8K TVs – Improved – No. Of 8K/60 inputs increases, depends by model
• 4K HDR, Dolby Vision content through AVR to 4K TVs and projectors.
• Latency free gaming experience with the latest gaming consoles with higher frame rate, variable refresh rate and auto low latency mode
• Dolby Atmos, DTS:X objected based 3D sound formats up to 15.4 channel speaker configurations such as 9.4.6 Dolby Atmos/DTS:X pro layout (AV10 only)
• Enjoy most powerful, room-filling LFE performance up to 4 subwoofer connections – New
• Enjoy IMAX theater experience at home with IMAX Enhanced content
• Thanks to Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization and DTS Virtual:X technologies, enjoy 3D audio experience only from floor level speakers as small as 2.1 setup
• Enthusiasts, music lovers can enjoy Auro 3D content as well as Auro-Matic up-mixing up to 13.1 channel (7.4.6) out of box.
• Take advantage of built-in Audyssey room calibration and EQ technology to optimize room acoustics out of box, customize further via the Audyssey MultEQ editor app.
• More advanced users can take full advantage of “Dirac Live” upgradability for more professional and remote calibration through PC or smart devices – New AV10, C30,40,50
• Connect more powerful external amplifiers for all channel or your desired channels with least interference from internal amplification thanks to PreAmplifier mode or Pre-out only option for each speaker channel – New
• Enjoy single HDMI connection from AVR to the TV for TV Audio. Take uncompressed 3D audio from TV apps to the AVR through eARC (Enhanced Audio Return Channel).
• All supported by excellent audio quality thoroughly tuned by Denon and Marantz sound masters.
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Cinema 70s
7.2 Channel 50W Slimline AV Receiver

Summary
- Latest A/V formats for pristine picture quality and best immersive sound experience
- Powerful, immersive 3D soundscape, even with a 2.1 set up
- Made with the installer in mind for ease of installation and management for the High End / Luxury consumer
- Slim form allows for easier installation in media consoles and racks
- Replaces NR1711

Specs / New Feature Enhancements
- 7.2 channel, 50w per channel AV Receiver. 7.2 channel preouts
- 6/1 HDMI input/output, 3 inputs supporting 8K / 60Hz and 4K / 120Hz passthrough.
- Modern, high resolution TV Graphical User Interface for 4K/8K TVs
- Dolby Atmos, DTS:X
- Audyssey MultEQ
- Pre-amp mode for each channel, allowing greater customization
- Luxury industrial design

Change from NR1711
• New back panel printing design
• Increased the “8K HDMI IN” terminals (1 => 3)
• Remove the Component Video in/out and the Video in/Out
• Add the 7.2ch PRE out

(SRP) US $1200 / CA $1600

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Cinema 60
7.2 Channel 100W AV Receiver

Summary
- Latest A/V formats for pristine picture quality and best immersive sound experience
- Powerful, immersive 3D soundscape, even with a 2.1 setup
- Made with the installer in mind for ease of installation and management for the High End / Luxury consumer
- Replaces SR5015

Specs / New Feature Enhancements
- 7.2 channel, 100w per channel AV Receiver. 7.2 channel preouts
- 6/2 HDMI input/output, 3 inputs supporting 8K / 60Hz and 4K / 120Hz passthrough.
- Modern, high resolution TV Graphical User Interface for 4K/8K TVs
- Dolby Atmos, DTS:X
- Audyssey MultEQ XT
- Pre-amp mode for each channel, allowing greater customization
- Marantz HDAM design
- Luxury industrial design

Changes from SR5015
• New back panel printing design
• Increased the “8K HDMI IN” terminals (1 => 3)
• Remove the Component Video in/out and the Video in/Out

(SRP) US $1700 / CA $2200

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Cinema 50
9.4 Channel 110W AV Receiver

Summary
- Latest A/V formats for pristine picture quality and best immersive sound experience
- Powerful, immersive 3D soundscape, even with a 2.1 set up
- Made with the installer in mind for ease of installation and management for the High End / Luxury consumer
- Replaces SR6015

Specs / New Feature Enhancements
- 9.4 channel, 110w per channel AV Receiver. 11.4 channel preouts
- 6/3 HDMI input/output, all inputs supporting 8K / 60Hz and 4K / 120Hz passthrough.
- Modern, high resolution TV Graphical User Interface for 4K/8K TVs
- Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, IMAX Enhanced, Auro 3D
- Audyssey MultEQ XT32, Dirac Live upgradable
- Pre-amp mode for each channel, allowing greater customization
- Marantz HDAM design
- Luxury industrial design

Changes from SR6015
• New back panel printing design
• Decreased the “HDMI IN” terminals (7 => 6)
• Increased the “8K HDMI IN” terminals (1 => 6)
• Increased the “SUBWOOFER” terminals (2 => 4)
• Remove the Component Video in/out and the Video in/Out and the 7.1 ch in

(SRP) US $2500 / CA $3300

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Cinema 40
9.4 Channel 125W AV Receiver

Summary
- Latest A/V formats for pristine picture quality and best immersive sound experience
- Powerful, immersive 3D soundscape, even with a 2.1 setup
- Made with the installer in mind for ease of installation and management for the High End / Luxury consumer
- Replaces SR7015

Specs / New Feature Enhancements
- 9.4 channel, 125w per channel AV Receiver. 11.4 channel preouts
- 7/3 HDMI input/output, all inputs supporting 8K / 60Hz and 4K / 120Hz passthrough.
- Modern, high resolution TV Graphical User Interface for 4K/8K TVs
- Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, IMAX Enhanced, Auro 3D
- Audyssey MultEQ XT32, Dirac Live upgradable
- Pre-amp mode for each channel, allowing greater customization
- Marantz HDAM design
- Luxury industrial design
- Made in Shirakawa Audio Works, Japan

Change from SR7015
• New back panel printing design
• Increase the “TRIGGER OUT” terminals (2 => 3)
• Increased the “8K HDMI IN” terminals (1 => 7)
• Increased the “SUBWOOFER” terminals (2 => 4)
• Remove the Component Video in/out

(SRP) US $3500 / CA $4500

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AV 10
15.4 Channel AV Pre Amplifier

Summary
- The most powerful and customizable system to create your ultimate Home Theater
- Latest A/V formats for pristine picture quality and best immersive sound experience
- Powerful, immersive 3D soundscape
- Made with the installer in mind for ease of installation and management for the High End / Luxury consumer

Specs / New Feature Enhancements
- 15.4 channel processing with advanced bass management. 4 subwoofer connections
- 7/3 HDMI input/output, all inputs supporting 8K / 60Hz and 4K / 120Hz passthrough
- Modern, high resolution TV Graphical User Interface for 4K/8K TVs
- Dolby Atmos, DTS:X Pro, IMAX Enhanced, Auro 3D
- Audyssey MultEQ XT32, Dirac Live upgradable
- Toroidal Power Transformer, 19 channel monolithic HDAM design
- Luxury industrial design
- Made in Shirakawa Audio Works, Japan
- 1 colorway

(SRP) US $7000 / CA $9000

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AMP 10
16 Channel 200W Power Amplifier

Summary
- The most powerful and customizable system to create your ultimate Home Theater
- Made with the installer in mind for ease of installation and management for the High End / Luxury consumer

Key Specs & Technologies
- 16-channel power amplifier with newly developed Class D amplification
- 200W + 200W at 8ohms, 1kHz, 2 channel driven
- 400W + 400W at 8ohms, 1kHz, 2 channel driven at BTL (Bridge-Tied Load)
- 16 channel XLR/RCA inputs
- Toroidal Power Transformer. Marantz HDAM design. Porthole analog level meter
- Luxury industrial design
- Made in Shirakawa Audio Works, Japan
- 1 colorway

(SRP) US $7000 / CA $9000
 
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ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
Very intriguing info! Thank you for sharing. Not long until we see some verification. ;)
Some of this seems to lend credence to the info on some of the new Denons that popped up... You wouldn't by chance be the source of that stuff, too, would you? (Don't worry, I don't really expect an answer to that @314carpenter .)

BTW, are you from the Greater STL area, by chance?
 
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TheAVInsider

Junior Audioholic
Very intriguing info! Thank you for sharing. Not long until we see some verification. ;)
Some of this seems to lend credence to the info on some of the new Denons that popped up... You wouldn't by chance be the source of that stuff, too, would you? (Don't worry, I don't really expect an answer to that @314carpenter .)

BTW, are you from the Greater STL area, by chance?
Sorry, I don't have Denon specific source materials ATM.
 
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ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
Sorry, I don't have Denon specific source materials ATM.

Wisconsin actually. However, I was recently around the K.C. area for MWAVE.
I was curious... 314 was my area code growing up. ;)
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Very exciting. Dirac Live, 9.4.6 AV, 16CH class-D amp.
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
The same thread has been taken down on ASR apparently requested by the OP so I think the same will happen here very soon.
 
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TheAVInsider

Junior Audioholic
Your a God and a Legend Gene.
Thanks for the compliment.
Nice thread resurrection too. I swear it was deleted once.
Thanks for bringing the early details out into to the light...again. Youtube is a great platform, but I won't touch it.
LMN if there's anything else you would like to publish, and I'll see if there's anymore cats around here that need to be unbagged.
 
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jeffca

Junior Audioholic
I have no doubt that this processor will be a fantastic bit of kit, but I do have one question:

Will the pre/pro support full 24/96 resolution when running either room correction systems?

One of the reasons that I haven't upgraded from my Emotiva XMC-1 was that any pre/pro around $5K or so still downsampled audio to a 48kHz sample rate because the processor could not offer the bandwidth for anything higher.

Almost 10 years ago using a Mac Mini, I could easily playback hi-res audio corrected with IK's Audessey VST plug running through AudioHijack. It sounded fantastic.
 
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TheAVInsider

Junior Audioholic
Must Read.

Gary Dayton Sound United Marketing Manager -U.S.

“When we look at the global marketplace for high performance audio equipment,” he says, “overall it's a fairly mature marketplace. So we're now interested in bringing high quality audio to those who wouldn't normally be interested in it. There's this entire population of luxury consumers who appreciate the sensory delights of so many other things, and I think they've been either not exposed to – or turned off from – high performance audio in the past. So we're trying to position Marantz to make high performance audio an extremely attractive proposition.”

“We are emphatically not trying to pivot away from our core specialist hi-fi roots, Gary says. “It's more of a case of going for new luxury consumers, and performance is very much a part of this. We're trying to package it up in a way that appeals to other people beyond guys like us. Our new Model 40n integrated amplifier is a great example. In the States, it's $2,500, yet it has this beautifully machined aluminium chassis and superb textured control surfaces – we paid a lot of attention to how the controls feel; they're smooth and precise with a heavily damped feel.” Gary says it's useful to think about this in terms of someone who's bought their first luxury watch. “You expect a level of premium quality. Great design isn't exclusive of high performance; you can have both.”

“From a volume and revenue perspective, we'll still lead with our mid-priced products. If you look at our portfolio now, we see a lot of people buying SR5015 and SR6015 surround receivers, and PM7000 and PM8006 are popular integrated amplifiers for us. We certainly sell fewer PM-10s and PM-12s than the lower priced stuff – it's not at all Marantz's ambition to go so far upscale that it makes people squirm, but I do think that it's important that our products cost enough that they can justify their performance and style. I don't think we're ever going to be an impulse buy…”

-"When you buy Marantz you have to have an appreciation of the different elements that make a quality product other than just the spec sheet.”

“Marantz is differentiated from Denon by – to a large part – our sound quality. I don't think anyone would say that we are absolutely neutral – there's a subtle but pleasing 'patina' that once you hear in a Marantz product, you can never unhear. It makes listening to music or movie soundtracks such a joy. Much of this comes from our approach to digital-to-analogue conversion, and our HDAM discrete preamplifier circuits are a big part of how we're able to achieve that. You'll find that almost all our high end products use toroidal power transformers, where it's much more common to find EI core transformers in the Denon products. There are some commonalties, where we develop key technology platforms together – things like HDMI and DSP processing for Dolby Atmos and DTS:X – but once you take the output from these platforms we get to refine our individual sound quality.”

Gary Dayton adds, “We see various people on AV specialist forums panning us for being a large conglomerate selling the same product under different marques, but that is simply not true. Each of the brands under the Sound United umbrella is managed independently, and we get to make our own decisions about the products. Every brand has their own product leader and gets to define their own products specifically – whilst getting to share some economy of scale advantages.”

We have a really exciting roadmap of two-channel hi-fi products coming up in the next few years, not only from a design perspective but from a sound quality viewpoint. As we put more products out, there's ever increasing detail and nuance”, says Gary.

“We're exploring the idea of products that are far easier to fit into secondary or tertiary listening rooms around the house,” says Gary, “and streaming of course is going to be at the heart of it. We want audiophiles to become aware of Marantz as the premium audio company, so should they be very satisfied with their first purchase we want them to think of us for their next audio needs, so that means adding some music in the bedroom that nicely integrates with their stereo or home theatre in other rooms, that's great.”

We will absolutely continue to support physical disc formats”, adds Gary. “For example, one of the strongest performing products over the last year has been the CD6007, a great bang-for-the-buck CD player that's not too expensive but sounds good. It's amazing isn't it, that in 2022 Compact Disc remains popular enough that we can sell premium silver disc players that aren't connected to the internet at all – such as our new CD 60. That speaks to the popularity of physical media in general. As for me, growing up as a teenager I did nothing but make mixtapes for girls – which eventually got me a wife! So it's great to be able to provide amazing products for people, however they listen…”
 
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Kvn_Walker

Kvn_Walker

Audioholic Field Marshall
I wonder if the Stereo 70 will fix some of the piss poor design flaws of the Nr1200. I like my unit but I'd be lying if I said it was really worth the price.
 

lc6

Junior Audioholic
Gary Dayton Sound United Marketing Manager -U.S.
“Marantz is differentiated from Denon by – to a large part – our sound quality. I don't think anyone would say that we are absolutely neutral – there's a subtle but pleasing 'patina' that once you hear in a Marantz product, you can never unhear. It makes listening to music or movie soundtracks such a joy. Much of this comes from our approach to digital-to-analogue conversion, and our HDAM discrete preamplifier circuits are a big part of how we're able to achieve that."
What exactly is this 'patina' he is referring to? Is this some kind of unevenness in the FR?
Also, what is the durability of Marantz AVR compared to Denon and Yamaha?
 
Kvn_Walker

Kvn_Walker

Audioholic Field Marshall
What exactly is this 'patina' he is referring to? Is this some kind of unevenness in the FR?
Also, what is the durability of Marantz AVR compared to Denon and Yamaha?
Denon and Marantz are very similar (if not identical) internally, since they are a joint manufacturer now.
 
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TheAVInsider

Junior Audioholic
Denon and Marantz are very similar (if not identical) internally, since they are a joint manufacturer now.
False. Fake news. 57% similar on a component level, according to Phil Jones. Some Marantz models have upwards of 14% higher parts count then comparable Denon models.
 
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gene

gene

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I have no doubt that this processor will be a fantastic bit of kit, but I do have one question:

Will the pre/pro support full 24/96 resolution when running either room correction systems?

One of the reasons that I haven't upgraded from my Emotiva XMC-1 was that any pre/pro around $5K or so still downsampled audio to a 48kHz sample rate because the processor could not offer the bandwidth for anything higher.

Almost 10 years ago using a Mac Mini, I could easily playback hi-res audio corrected with IK's Audessey VST plug running through AudioHijack. It sounded fantastic.
Most AVRs and processors downs ample to 48khz either for room correction or bass management. It's a non issue.
 
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