The State Of Blu-ray According To Matsushita

stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
Mr. Kazuhiro Tsuga, executive officer of Matsushita's Panasonic briefed reporters recently at the CEATEC Japan 2007 last Tuesday, his responses give an insight to the mindset at Matsushita regarding the Blu-ray format struggle. Reminded by reporters of a remark he said in the past regarding dual format players: "Panasonic would never introduce such a stupid product," asked if LG and Samsung's foray in the combi players would have an effect on Panasonic, he jokingly replied "they haven't, like those stupid companies."

He then got serious and candidly put forth Panasonic's view on the state of Blu-ray. "Fortunately we haven't changed our mind, we believe that movie studios will select one format, namely Blu-ray sooner than later. When reminded that Paramount has decided to carry HD DVD, Tsuga was adamant, "Everyone knows that big (promotional) money from Toshiba or Microsoft has gotten backing for HD DVD." "Major studios backing Blu-ray want us to put more money behind promoting the format and it's features, expanding the market," said Tsuga.

Mr. Suga and the brass at Panasonic believe that the fourth quarter and the first quarter 2008 will be "critical" for Blu-ray, and more importantly to Audioholics wanting to get into a format, he believes the war will go on for at least one more year. They even plan on taking losses to promote the format.

Fumio Ohstsubo, president of Matsushita Electric Industrial, gave an eye opening answer that alludes to Panasonic's intent with Blu-ray recording decks in the US, the vision that he sees is "the immediate future for Blu-ray is home players and not recording decks, there is so much software in the US (movies) that Blu-ray recorders will take time to be accepted, unlike Japan."

Toshihiro Sakamoto, senior managing director, member of the board and president of Panasonic AVC Networks company agreed with Mr.Ohtsubo's assessment and further added that in Japan, "We already won the war there is no question about it, but Christmas will be critical in the US market."
Regarding the move by Sharp and Pioneer to collaborate in research, Mr Ohtsubo gave a side-stepped cryptic answer, "As you know competition in CE is very, very, very severe. In Japan there are eight major players. Recently these players are focusing on their strong points, focusing on what they do best....which is good." Now that is a non-answer.

An interesting point and one with a lot of wishful thinking behind it, Hitoshi Otsuki, managing director of overseas operations said that, "In general I don't see much in the way of low prices in the US like last year. Hopefully the industry can make more money than last year during the quarter."

Mr. Ohtsuki should be mindful that certain segments in our economy were not in play last year in the same quarter, recession is nearly upon us and Christmas as pointed out before is expected to be dismal for retailers. Though Panasonic's view of the market is bullish, my opinion is that this was an optimistic facade put on for the press, reality will force the CE industry to reassess their positions come Black Friday, given the concessions they're willing to make it might turn out to be Red Friday, bad for them good for us.
 
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j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
I read data the other day that said the Japan is 90% BD vs HD-DVD. I don't know if that is true or not, but if it is, wow.
 
stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
According to Matsushita the war in Japan is a moot point, they've won.
 
patnshan

patnshan

Senior Audioholic
According to Matsushita the war in Japan is a moot point, they've won.

They've said they won over and over and over again. It's like crying wolf.

Blu Ray Disc association in Jan. 2007:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/08/blu-ray-disc-association-declares-victory-over-hd-dvd/

Sony in Feb. 2007:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/13/sony-claims-blu-ray-winner-in-format-war/

Panasonic again in June 2007:
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/06/20/has-blu-ray-won-the-hd-war-panasonic-exec-thinks-so/


I don't care which format you support, declaring anyone a victor at this point is just plain pompous, especially saying it about yourself.

So, if you say it enough, will it happen?????

Pat
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
And well, it sounds like that would be TRUE...in Japan. Just not anywhere else :)
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
The Japanese as a whole are more tech savy. If their consumers see a slight advantage to one or the other, they are going to pick the best one. Where as here most folks have no clue which has any type of technical superiority. The movies look the same in many cases, but Blu-ray has more potential space to fill if they continue to develop beyond 50 gig dual layer discs.
 
patnshan

patnshan

Senior Audioholic
The movies look the same in many cases, but Blu-ray has more potential space to fill if they continue to develop beyond 50 gig dual layer discs.

TL51 is approved for HD DVD, so that's a non-issue where we currently stand.

Pat
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
TL51 is approved for HD DVD, so that's a non-issue where we currently stand.

Pat
Let me know when TL51 is more than vaporware. It's like saying BD1.1 is approved, so it's a non-issue, or that BD+ is approved, so it's a non-issue.

Until it is up and running and we have actal discs and there aren't significant hardware issues - it's a myth.

Blu-ray owns Japan, and I think the USA will be the major determining factor for much of the rest of the world. Europe was dominated by HD DVD for a long time, but the entire HD DVD & Blu-ray installed base, prior to PS3 launch, amounted to less than the sales of PS3 consoles for a single month. Hardly a voice in the format war - so they may still be a couple of years (or more) behind.

I think it will all be Blu-ray, but there's a chance that there will be both.
 
N

naisphoo

Banned
Why the tone of the op is so anti-blu ray? Yeah let the hdvd amp wins and M$ will rule this segment of the industry as well and you'll have red ring of death even with your high definition dvd player! Yeah a 33% failure rate is what awaits you! I want to see your face then...
 
bobnegi

bobnegi

Audioholic Intern
And well, it sounds like that would be TRUE...in Japan. Just not anywhere else :)[/QUOTE]

Well, I was at the local Rogers Video, I asked the manager if they rent out the new formats, he said they just sell them, I asked which one sells the most.
"Pretty well HD DVD, we hardly ever sell any Blu-ray"

Take it for what its worth-a very unscientific survey
 
stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
According to NPD Group (mega marketing think tank) the numbers are still pretty stable at 2:1 in favor of Blu-ray.
 
M

mike67

Enthusiast
i seen that blu ray demo a few times in shows and quite please with the video superiority over standard dvd, but i am most impress with the LPCM 7.1 surround sound it can accomodate with bigger spaCE. None of the HD disc i came across so far had it. though the cost of manufacturing blu ray disc higher but the price on sale i came across so far for bluray and HD dics are almost similar . i personally believe blu ray will be able to give more option on sound wise in future due to space. personally i prefer blu ray not to loss, i have yet to see what HD DVD can offer in term of sound though pic have no issues.
 

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