taking suggestions for new speakers. HELP!!!!

[flopez82]

hello to all,

I have owned a denon receiver for a while now but i cant seem to find a good set of speakers that will last my loud long lasting parties.

I like to have music loud for a couple of hours so i need a good set of speakers that will take the beating and sound good

i dont want stand speakers i want more bookshelish speakers that are not crazy bulky

please reccommend a good set or what i need to look for in speakers

my budget is about $400

ty in advanced for all your help

here are my receiver specs:
DENON
[AVR-1602]
Dolby Digital, Dolby Pro Logic II and DTS A/V Receiver

• Dolby Pro Logic II, with Cinema and Music Modes • Dolby Digital and DTS decoding • 24 bit DSP processor • 5 equal power amplifier channels • 70 watts per channel into 8 ohms, <.08%THD, 20Hz - 20 kHz • 100-watts per channel into 6 ohms, 1kHz, <.7%THD • Discrete power amplifier stage • 5 Channel Stereo • Personal Memory Plus • Virtual Surround (for use with 2 speakers) • 24 bit, 96 kHz DACs • 24 bit, 96 kHz digital interface receiver • 24 bit, 96 kHz stereo PCM digital playback • Speaker A/B (front) selector • Front Panel A/V inputs with cover • 6 Channel External Input (for DVD-Audio) with wideband (100 kHz) frequency response • Addressable digital inputs, 1 optical, 1 coaxial • One Optical digital output for recording • "S" & composite video switching • Banana plug compatible speaker terminals all channels • Subwoofer Pre-amp output • Preprogrammed remote control features TV, VCR, DVD codes from other manufacturers • Dimensions: 17.1"w x 5.8"h x 16.4"d

 

[boboi]

hello to all,

I have owned a denon receiver for a while now but i cant seem to find a good set of speakers that will last my loud long lasting parties.

I like to have music loud for a couple of hours so i need a good set of speakers that will take the beating and sound good

i dont want stand speakers i want more bookshelish speakers that are not crazy bulky

please reccommend a good set or what i need to look for in speakers

my budget is about $400

ty in advanced for all your help

here are my receiver specs:
DENON
[AVR-1602]
Dolby Digital, Dolby Pro Logic II and DTS A/V Receiver

• Dolby Pro Logic II, with Cinema and Music Modes • Dolby Digital and DTS decoding • 24 bit DSP processor • 5 equal power amplifier channels • 70 watts per channel into 8 ohms, <.08%THD, 20Hz - 20 kHz • 100-watts per channel into 6 ohms, 1kHz, <.7%THD • Discrete power amplifier stage • 5 Channel Stereo • Personal Memory Plus • Virtual Surround (for use with 2 speakers) • 24 bit, 96 kHz DACs • 24 bit, 96 kHz digital interface receiver • 24 bit, 96 kHz stereo PCM digital playback • Speaker A/B (front) selector • Front Panel A/V inputs with cover • 6 Channel External Input (for DVD-Audio) with wideband (100 kHz) frequency response • Addressable digital inputs, 1 optical, 1 coaxial • One Optical digital output for recording • "S" & composite video switching • Banana plug compatible speaker terminals all channels • Subwoofer Pre-amp output • Preprogrammed remote control features TV, VCR, DVD codes from other manufacturers • Dimensions: 17.1"w x 5.8"h x 16.4"d

If you are looking for speakers that go quite loud in volume, Klipsch is a brand that comes to mind. Klipch makes highly efficient speakers, therefore they'll play plenty loud without usuing too much amp power at all. You should be able to pick up a pair of bookshelf speakers from their Synergy or Reference Series for under $400, just shop around.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_e?url=search-alias=electronics&field-keywords=klipsch+speakers+bookshelf

Most important, listen to them first and see if you like the sound

 

[flopez82]

ty will look into those thanks

 

[WmAx]

Do you care about sound quality? If so, Klipsche is a poor choice. I believe this brand was recommended to you because it is one of the best for 'okay' sound quality, but excellent for high efficiency and high SPL.

-Chris

 

[AVRat]

What speakers do you have now? http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/cbm170/cbm170.html

 

[Exit]

If the sale is still on, you can get a great deal on a whole 5.1 EMP speaker system from the Audioholics Store for just $489. This includes a good subwoofer, which is worth the system price by itself. The system, including the bookshelf speakers and center channel, can fill a large room to high volumes without distortion. You have 20 Watts/Channel less power than the receiver I listened to, but I think you will still be able to play it plenty loud with your receiver. After all, the power-consuming bass load is transferred to the self-powered subwoofer, so I don’t think it takes much power to drive the midrange and highs. If this interests you follow the link below.

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51083

The price may sound too cheap to be good, but it really is a good sounding system, probably worth the retail price and definitely worth the sale price.

The system has a 14 day return policy if for any reason you don’t like them. I took the chance on them and I was very satisfied. It is a real deal.

 

[flopez82]

well i would really like a good sounding system that is very efficient so that i can play it loudly for long time

i bought a sony bravia surround sound system and ended up burning the speakers the same day

please keep the recommendations coming

thanks

 

[Neijii]

You keep saying "loud", but there's a HUGE difference between loud and quality. If you want loud you can buy whatever and keep the volume high.

If quality is what you want, someone mentioned Ascend Acoustics. I just got my father the CMTs and they're amazing. For the price, it's probably one of the best you can get.

 

[Soundman]

If your main objective is to play loud at parties where the listening is not as critical, but mainly for a social atmosphere, then you may want to consider a horn loaded speaker like this one: http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hb-1.html

 

[TjMV3]

As some have mentioned, loud does not necessarily equate good sound.

You may want to take your time auditioning different speakers and see what sounds best to you.

Also, I'm not all that familiar with your receiver but I have to wonder if that receiver is an appropriate amplifier for someone who's interest lies in blasting out loud music, in a party setting.

I would consider using your receiver as pre amp (use the pre amp outputs) and buying a powerful seperate amplifier, to provide you with good, clean watts.

It's possible the amp section of your receiver is ill equipped to be a major thumper for long term, consistent loud music, in a party setting.

If that receiver is prone to serious clipping at long term high volume output, you could fry your speakers and maybe even damage your receiver.

Typically, speakers don't fry from too much power. They fry from underpowered amp sections and severe clipping.

 

[AVRat]

Ditto TjMV3

What was the volume level on the receiver?

 

[flopez82]

thanks guys for your replys

when i say loud i dont mean like dj loud i mean like above normal loudness

i need something that sounds good because if im going to spend a couple hundred dollars i would like something that sounds good and is going to last me as well

i guess im comfusing some of you who are trying to help me out

just for my knowledge

if i keep blowing my speakers is that because the speakers cannot take the power the receiver is putting out for that time period or because the speaker is not efficient enough??

my receiver has gotten really really hot before as well but i bought this cooling fan that helps the situation out and i havent had any more problems with my receiver

 

[TjMV3]

thanks guys for your replys

when i say loud i dont mean like dj loud i mean like above normal loudness

i need something that sounds good because if im going to spend a couple hundred dollars i would like something that sounds good and is going to last me as well

i guess im comfusing some of you who are trying to help me out

just for my knowledge

if i keep blowing my speakers is that because the speakers cannot take the power the receiver is putting out for that time period or because the speaker is not efficient enough??

my receiver has gotten really really hot before as well but i bought this cooling fan that helps the situation out and i havent had any more problems with my receiver

flopez82, it's impossible for any of us to tell you what happened to your previous speakers, with any degree of certainty.

But as I said in my previous post, it is much more common for speakers to be destroyed as a result of an amplifier (Receiver) that doesn't have enough power to meet the demands of the speakers. The louder you want your music to play, the more power you are demanding from your amp/receiver.

If an amplifier/receiver is incapable of delivering that kind of power, it will run out of power and clip. The clipping ...is what destroys speakers. The clipping ...or the lack of sufficient power...in a majority of cases is what causes that nasty distortion coming from speakers, when the volume is turned up. It's not the speakers, it's the amplifier failing......clipping.

JMost people blame the speakers. But in most cases and with most speakers, they are perfectly capable of loud music. As long as the amplifier driving them has the juice.


Again, under-powering your speakers is way more dangerous, than having an amplifier that pumps out more power.

I believe your problem lies with your receiver. I don't think that receiver has the power required to meet your demands for loud music.

Seriously consider my suggestion in my other post of using your receiver as pre amp (use the pre amp outputs) and buying a powerful seperate amplifier, to provide you with good, clean watts.....for driving your speakers.

BTW, try auditioning the Jamo C607 floorstanders.

 

[fredk]

The specs for that receiver list 70w x 2, probably not enough for your demands, particularly if you are running less efficient speakers.

Given your budget, if you don't need all the latest codecs, I would look at an older receiver that delivers more like 120w x 2, more if you can find one.

Edit: that is assuming an average size room and speakers with reasonable efficiency.

 

[NicolasKL]

I think it's far more likely that the speakers developed problems because they were cheap HTiB pieces of junk, rather than because they were being powered by an overdriven amp.

I think any decent bookshelf will serve you well. Klipsch isn't a bad choice due to their efficiency, as previously stated. I'd take a look at the CBM-170 SE from Ascend, personally. I think they're $348 shipped right now. Put the rest towards saving for a subwoofer, which is what you really need to get the party started.