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GarrettMaster1

Audioholic Intern
I have a speaker system that... well alright I'll take a picture becuase pictures are better than words...


http://studentweb.uwstout.edu/guntlyg/sun.JPG

The sun goes accross it through the day--it's only been there for about a day so my question is should I move it? Thanks in advance!

-GarrettMaster
 
Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord
GarrettMaster1 said:
I have a speaker system that... well alright I'll take a picture becuase pictures are better than words...


http://studentweb.uwstout.edu/guntlyg/sun.JPG

The sun goes accross it through the day--it's only been there for about a day so my question is should I move it? Thanks in advance!

-GarrettMaster
You'll be fine.

EDIT: Is that a logitech subwoofer beside it? Yes, I thnk it is! :D

SheepStar
 
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majorloser

majorloser

Moderator
Yes, UV and heat can harm the driver. If I can see the driver through the grill in the picture, UV is getting through. Unless the window has a UV coating. Some newer windows have a UV coating on them. You could add a layer of window tint to also block out the UV rads. A cheap window shade can also help.

The sun will fade out the speaker and can dry out the surround over time. If you live in the South, like me, it won't take long.
 
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GarrettMaster1

Audioholic Intern
I was thinking of getting some black towels for these to act as a cover when not using them...
 
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warpdrive

Full Audioholic
I have the same problem. I cover the speakers with a white towel.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
It's not just the direct sunlight.

The radiant heat generated can dry out the surrounds, too. Keep 'em away from heat vents too. The warm, dry air can do 'em in as well. I lost a LE-14 surround that way.
 
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sjdgpt

Senior Audioholic
Move the speaker

UV and heat are damaging to the rubber surround that holds the bass driver.

Covering the speakers with a towel will only add a wee bit of temperature insulation.

Move the speaker.

Or cover the window to block both heat and light.


Car speakers must be exposed to heat and UV and will use a surround material and driver material that is more temperature and light resistant. This same type of speaker is also made by some home audio companies as their outdoor speakers. Heat, UV and water resistant. And the sound quality generally sux.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
majorloser said:
Yes, UV and heat can harm the driver. If I can see the driver through the grill in the picture, UV is getting through. Unless the window has a UV coating. Some newer windows have a UV coating on them. You could add a layer of window tint to also block out the UV rads. A cheap window shade can also help.

The sun will fade out the speaker and can dry out the surround over time. If you live in the South, like me, it won't take long.

What will the uv do that the sun will not? A trick question indeed.
 
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GarrettMaster1

Audioholic Intern
So hypothetically if I were to try and patch this issue by putting a towel over the drivers, it would only protect the UV but I would still be exposed to the issue of heat?
 
majorloser

majorloser

Moderator
mtrycrafts said:
What will the uv do that the sun will not? A trick question indeed.
UV (ultraviolet) is a form of radiation. Our sun deilvers Utraviolet radiation in three bands; UVA, UVB and UVC. UVC is commonly used for disinfection purposes due to it's strong germicidal properties. It has to be man-made because it is filtered out by what's left of our ozone layer.

UVA can pass through common window glass and is the primary cause of fading and degradation of items in your home. For those of us fortunate ones that live further South, the sun's rays pass through less atmosphere so less UV radiation is filtered out. As was stated earlier, items that are placed inside an automobile are subjected to UV and heat more regularly. Most automobile manufacturers apply a thin coating to the glass to reflect UV light and equipment manufacturers make their equipment to handle higher ambient heat levels.

To answer your question better, the sun is not the only source of UV emitters in your house. Common exposed halogen bulbs are also emitters. The quartz glass used in halogen bulbs is transparent to UVA and UVB. Most halogen bulbs that are meant to be exposed to human are covered by an external glass outer shell. Those cheap torchier lights are the worst for this.

The cheapest and easiest way to handle this problem with old windows in your house is a sheet of window tint. Can be applied by any home onwer and is available in tints so light you won't even notice it. Newer windows are already coated with a UV protection.

(And yes, I play with UV and ozone as a disinfectant every day in my line of work.)
 
Hi Ho

Hi Ho

Audioholic Samurai
Those drivers do not have any rubber. They are all paper. I have the exact same (similar anyway) Yamaha PA speakers. I'm not sure how much damage the UV light and heat will do to the paper.
 
majorloser

majorloser

Moderator
Hi Ho said:
Those drivers do not have any rubber. They are all paper. I have the exact same (similar anyway) Yamaha PA speakers. I'm not sure how much damage the UV light and heat will do to the paper.
Have you ever left a newspaper out exposed to sunlight for awhile? It gets brittle, turns yellow and colors bleach out.
 
Hi Ho

Hi Ho

Audioholic Samurai
I guess that answers that question. :) I wasn't even thinking about that.
 
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GarrettMaster1

Audioholic Intern
Hi Ho said:
Those drivers do not have any rubber. They are all paper. I have the exact same (similar anyway) Yamaha PA speakers. I'm not sure how much damage the UV light and heat will do to the paper.
You have a similiar pair? I have a question for you in that case--> How did you set up the system for a full range? I'm researching preamps and equalizers to do the trick but would like to know what others are doing.
 
Hi Ho

Hi Ho

Audioholic Samurai
I don't use them at home. They are a PA system for my dad's band. They use a Peavy amp/mixer/equalizer.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
majorloser said:
UV (ultraviolet) is a form of radiation. Our sun deilvers Utraviolet radiation in three bands; UVA, UVB and UVC. UVC is commonly used for disinfection purposes due to it's strong germicidal properties. It has to be man-made because it is filtered out by what's left of our ozone layer.

UVA can pass through common window glass and is the primary cause of fading and degradation of items in your home. For those of us fortunate ones that live further South, the sun's rays pass through less atmosphere so less UV radiation is filtered out. As was stated earlier, items that are placed inside an automobile are subjected to UV and heat more regularly. Most automobile manufacturers apply a thin coating to the glass to reflect UV light and equipment manufacturers make their equipment to handle higher ambient heat levels.

To answer your question better, the sun is not the only source of UV emitters in your house. Common exposed halogen bulbs are also emitters. The quartz glass used in halogen bulbs is transparent to UVA and UVB. Most halogen bulbs that are meant to be exposed to human are covered by an external glass outer shell. Those cheap torchier lights are the worst for this.

The cheapest and easiest way to handle this problem with old windows in your house is a sheet of window tint. Can be applied by any home onwer and is available in tints so light you won't even notice it. Newer windows are already coated with a UV protection.

(And yes, I play with UV and ozone as a disinfectant every day in my line of work.)
Well, the reason I asked is that I have read a number of research on its effect on fading. I have seen the energy levels in the UV band compared to the energy in the visible light at the different wavelengths. Very low compared to them.
I have UV filter on the windows, not impressed. I had a roll of wall paper in front of it with the sun shining, maybe a day or so.
You guessed it, nice wash out on the wallpaper where it was exposed to the sun, behind that UV filter.

One only has to look at solid wood kitchen cabinets, well away from windows, behind doors to see the lighter shade where it was overlapped by the door and even at the space between doors darkens.

While UV will harm things, light itself will fade everything in sight over time.
Sounds like the wavelength of UV and above is harmful to those little critters:D
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
majorloser said:
Have you ever left a newspaper out exposed to sunlight for awhile? It gets brittle, turns yellow and colors bleach out.

Try that behind your UV window. It may take longer but it will bleach out just the same.:)
 
xboxweasel

xboxweasel

Full Audioholic
Doesn't Argon (between window panes) help block UV?
 
majorloser

majorloser

Moderator
xboxweasel said:
Doesn't Argon (between window panes) help block UV?
I would guess the Argon is an inert gas that is used between double pane windows for the insulation property.
 
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