Success!!!!

[droeses58]

......so thats what the manual is for

My xsub problems are over with, I now have all of the frequencies that I was missing yesterday thanks to the people of this forum!

How was I to know that dvd players aren't just plug n' play, I had no idea that there was a seperate speaker setup with the dvd player, until Spiffy and Buckeyefan stepped in and brought it to my attention.

The problem ended up being the dvd player had all speakers set to large, so I switched it to all small and valla the sub sounds much better [much tighter] then it did. It still falls off a little between 60hz and 80hz but not nearly as bad.

I still have to fine tune it, but I was enjoying my new found sub to much to play around with it, listening to some of my old favorites like Fleetwood Mac and Kansas. By the way if you want to see how your speakers sound at different frequencies and with different instruments might I suggest Kansas "Cheyenne Anthem" that song has it all. [keyboards, drums, bass, chorus etc.]

Now I can honestly suggest this sub to anyone, especially for the price.

Thanks again to this forum and especially Buckeye and Spiffy!

Droeses58 [a.k.a. BADGERFAN ]

Edit: Sorry Brian didn't mean to leave you out. Many Thanks

 

[Sheep]

excellent, always good to see things working out in the end, that don't require replacement.

I had the same problem, sort of. My towers were to loud in the upper bass frequency's and masked my subwoofer. I set them small, and now everything is balanced.


sheep

 

[brian32672]

Edit: Sorry Brian didn't mean to leave you out. Many Thanks

Thats ok, Glad all worked out fine

 

[mtrycrafts]

......so thats what the manual is for

My xsub problems are over with, I now have all of the frequencies that I was missing yesterday thanks to the people of this forum!

How was I to know that dvd players aren't just plug n' play, I had no idea that there was a seperate speaker setup with the dvd player, until Spiffy and Buckeyefan stepped in and brought it to my attention.

The problem ended up being the dvd player had all speakers set to large, so I switched it to all small and valla the sub sounds much better [much tighter] then it did. It still falls off a little between 60hz and 80hz but not nearly as bad.

I still have to fine tune it, but I was enjoying my new found sub to much to play around with it, listening to some of my old favorites like Fleetwood Mac and Kansas. By the way if you want to see how your speakers sound at different frequencies and with different instruments might I suggest Kansas "Cheyenne Anthem" that song has it all. [keyboards, drums, bass, chorus etc.]

Now I can honestly suggest this sub to anyone, especially for the price.

Thanks again to this forum and especially Buckeye and Spiffy!

Droeses58 [a.k.a. BADGERFAN ]

Edit: Sorry Brian didn't mean to leave you out. Many Thanks

Where is your other post? What was the problem? How were you sending the audio signal from that DVD player, analog or digital?

 

[droeses58]

Thanks for responding Buckeye!

O.k. I'll try to be a little more specific

Reciever: Pioneer vsx-814 crossover set to 100 [low as it goes]
Dvd Player: Daewoo dvdp-480

Main Speakers pair of klipsch rcw-5 in walls

xsub settings crossover set up all the way, volume about 10 o'clock, set in corner, out of corner, on carpet, and then on wood.

Demo disk consist of one set of test tones I downloaded and burned and the newer dve disk. Does the same on both. falls off around 60hz and starts coming back around 80.



BTW, what frequency does yours go down too? Mine seems to be around the low 30's

Thanks for all the help!

Edit: running audio with optical from dvd to pioneer

Sorry Mtrycrafts, I guess I should have explained the whole problem in the first place.

please help with speaker/sub set choices ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )
It's on the second last page of this tread.

 

[brian32672]

Where is your other post? What was the problem? How were you sending the audio signal from that DVD player, analog or digital?

Sorry, I thought you knew this. He only has 9 posts, to check his post all you have to do is check his profile, and it has an area to check all posts from user...

 

[mtrycrafts]

Sorry, I thought you knew this. He only has 9 posts, to check his post all you have to do is check his profile, and it has an area to check all posts from user...

Naw, that's probably the easy way I looked for this poster as the original poster, didn't see any for the last 3 pages

But now I found it, thanks

 

[RLA]

58
You may be sitting in a spot that has a dip or suck out in the frequency response between 60-80Hz. You may want to experiment with subwoofer placement and listening position
Look here for a great article
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/setup/loudspeakers/crawlingforbasssubwooferpl.php

The Klipsch RCW-5 is a great, very dynamic In-wall but it falls well short of its advertised low frequency cut off. Generally I have found 80Hz (small) the sweet spot for this speaker. The same is true for the R-5800W.

Having a crossover setting of 100Hz is a little high but you still should be able to obtain good results with a little experimentation. When you use the Analog multi-channel inputs all crossovers in the receiver are by-passed. If your DVD player has bass management capabilities a crossover point can be selected in the players set up menu, but most often these are pretty basic on all but the higher priced DVD players

 

[droeses58]

58
You may be sitting in a spot that has a dip or suck out in the frequency response between 60-80Hz. You may want to experiment with subwoofer placement and listening position
Look here for a great article
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/setup/loudspeakers/crawlingforbasssubwooferpl.php

The Klipsch RCW-5 is a great, very dynamic In-wall but it falls well short of its advertised low frequency cut off. Generally I have found 80Hz (small) the sweet spot for this speaker. The same is true for the R-5800W.

Having a crossover setting of 100Hz is a little high but you still should be able to obtain good results with a little experimentation. When you use the Analog multi-channel inputs all crossovers in the receiver are by-passed. If your DVD player has bass management capabilities a crossover point can be selected in the players set up menu, but most often these are pretty basic on all but the higher priced DVD players

Thanks for your input!

I should be getting my h/k 635 tuesday and that has all kinds of crossover settings. I initially though I would probably set it up at 60hz but you may well be right about the 80. One question I have is if you set it up in the dvd player then you set it up in the receiver isn't that kind off like going through the same thing twice? To me [a newbie, to ht] that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

 

[einsteinjb]

One question I have is if you set it up in the dvd player then you set it up in the receiver isn't that kind off like going through the same thing twice? To me [a newbie, to ht] that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong please but I believe the crossover settings you make in your DVD player will only apply when you're using the DVD player's multi-channel analog outputs (separate RCA analog jacks for L, R, C, surrounds, and sub), which you would probably only ever do if you're playing DVD-Audio or SACD, or if you're doing something strange and unusual (as I've done myself ) where you're running the DVD player into something like a pro mixer then into discreet amps to do a huge surround party with a pro sound system. (I did this in my tiny living room not long ago, WOWOWOWOW that was scary. ~5000 watts, 5 12x2 pro EAW and EV boxes and 2 18" Turbosound bass bins in a 14x12.5' room, woohoooo! Had to lock down the china first...)

Otherwise, the DVD player will simply pass the original digital encoded signal through the digital cable (optical or coax) into your receiver, where the receiver handles the decoding and sends the signals through the crossover and appropriate speaker level outs. Using those analog multi-channel outputs on the DVD player bypasses the receiver's decoder, so the decoding and crossover has to take place in the DVD player.

Hope this helps.

 

[RLA]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong please but I believe the crossover settings you make in your DVD player will only apply when you're using the DVD player's multi-channel analog outputs

This is correct The bass management only applies to the direct analog outputs It has no effect on the digital output and that is why you need to use both x-overs. There are a few Receivers and Pre-Pro's that do have analog bass management like the Denon 5805 and I think I seem to recall that the older 5803 had it as well.